I agree. What it boils down to is a driver saying screw some innocent persons life so he can make a few extra dollars. I hear people complaining about companies all the time, but maybe the business needs a little housecleaning on the driver side too. If drivers thought that it was their wife and kids out there on the road with him would he still act so irresponsible and negligent? Food for all of us to think about. If he was in fact driving over his hours, and that turns out to be the cause, he should burn. Anyone that has sympathy for drivers like that doesn't need to be on the road either.

 

I wonder if he was logging off duty while being stuck in traffic? :lol:

No accident is a joke, but you know where I am going with that; right? l.o.l.

I didn't see where the driver was accussed of running illegal though. Are you stating that because you know the company ran them illegal? It is a very main factor and I guarantee you DOT will be auditing them in the next day or couple weeks! Have you been gone from there for @ least 6 months?
If not you might be pulled as one of the drivers they audit. I HOPE YOU HAVE BEEN GONE LONG ENOUGH!
Drivers think once they are gone DOT won't audit their logs, this is very untrue! Not to stress you out or anything. If you was there let me know and I will tell you if you are possibly going to be audited.

 

you cant say the company made me do it in this day and age, its called "WHISTLE BLOWER PROGRAM" its not sponsored by the company, that is the governments way of stopping exactly what happened with good old buddy mr green. He says the company forced me to do it, The prosecution says bullsh$#, you could have not done it, reported it, and this would not have happened. We the jury find you guilty of manslaughter and sentence you to life in prison. Slam. Just because you hate the company does NOT give you the right to go around and spread crap. Bottom line, you may have just buried your friend because everything you typed is online for access to everyone and so this topic could be googled by say uhhhh THE PROSECUTION, and if you do know him like you say, what you blog could be used in a court of law. Man, with friends like you who the he!! needs enemies.

 

Steve,

He already knows he is up sh!t creek. I and my wife will be witnesses as well as many other employees as to how L & H operates. Yeah, you can call me a discruntled ex-employee but why shouldn't I be? I just want to be there to see this company go down in flames. I will state nothing but true facts as I have stated here. There is no need to tell stories as the truth will come out soon enough.

This is not the only illegal thing this company has done in the past. The problem is they think they are untouchable.

The industry doesn't need a company like this PERIOD!

All drivers including myself that are testifying have only been gone 2-3 months so I am sure my logs will be a part of it. I personally contacted the PA DOT before resigning and offered my logs as evidence then to try to get them to stop. Maybe now that someone has died they will take action.

Am I scared? NO! I will do whatever is necessary to help the DOT slam this company.

 

Dollar I understand companies are making drivers feel like they need to take the loads! But on this point can I say something? Please. Nothing bad towards you! I agree with you! So many companies make drivers feel pressured to take loads illegally that they do it! But I really want drivers to understand this!
YOu have a right to say no! There is nothing they can do to you if you say you can not do it legally! If you can prove in the court of law they are forcing you to run ilegall; you will win! My suggestion is; If you have the qualcom make sure you state in a message I can not deliver or pick up in time! If a conversation gets to the point on a continous why can't you etc. and then a follow up of "Call me". Get your recorder! I don't care if it will stand it court, it can still be heard! or simply state you are being recorded and it will stand up in court! Either the dispatcher will discuss how you can get around logs (and you can take it to Logs or if on recorder take it to your attorney if you want or you could go to the log dept. and we will deal with that one person).
DOT lays both of you responsible not just one of you! You must not take loads that you can not do legally and dispatch should not give you loads that you can't do legallly. Therefore if he dispatched you on an 11 hour run and then turns around and tells you to pick up a load, he is at fault! If you accept you are at fault also!

Dollar I have not seen the article where he is being accused but I will look.
To post it here: all you do is go to the article and click up in the web browser where the link is showing and right click and copy; Then paste it in a comment and when we click on it, the article should come up. That is the best way I can explain it
I am here to help drivers even though the illegal one's or stubborn one's don't believe it!

 

The links others posted (pojo) require a subscription, which I do not have, so I searched and found the following news link related to the accident:
http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily...07/10local.htm

A tragedy indeed.

 

when anyone is told to go over hos then simply do this If there is an emergency or the hazard is immediately life-threatening, call your local OSHA Regional Office or 1-800-321-OSHA.
or do this
[/url]http://www.osha.gov/pls/osha7/eComplaintForm.html

 

Sorry to here it.

 

Dollarshort sez:
I know the driver personally. He admitted it to the police as well as me.
Keep looking. There were 3 articles printed. One with the headline Driver may have been driving too long. Who's side am I on? The driver Ray Green is a good guy! I feel sorry for him. But it is because L & H put him in the position of driving illegal is the reason he is gonna hang for it. They do the same thing to all of their drivers. They starve you out and force you to take something you can't run legal just to try to get some $$$ in the bank.

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I've been reading this post. So...it can't be that bad a racket if this guy is collecting workers comp while working light duty and the company lets him do it. It don't sound to me like he is being forced into any position. Sounds like L*H is puttin him in the position of giving him a vacation!!! I don't know him, but Is he really such a "good guy" for taking advantige of what we all have to work so hard for, making a living?

 

Dawn you are right about the tape recorder not being allowed in court, but on the other hand you can dictate what was said on that tape and that document is admissable in court and sometimes with the tape recording acting to back that up.