Just being on "private property" don't mean diddly anymore. You can ticketed on private property for any moving violation in a motor vehicle that you can be ticketed on the road for.
Plus you might get busted for trespassing!!

Creek

 

I don't really give a crap if Lincoln reads this or not---
He started off asking for advice from "aham" old timers---
how the hell you think old timers learned in the first place, before "cdl mills" came out. And yes, at one time out of 65drivers- I was the only one My company realized "qualified" to train my own Wife to get her CDL.
What a candy ass......

 

you can't get ticketed on private property unless the owner of the property
allows the officers to come onto said property and do it......

just how many times have your finders been run over in parking lots--and called the police out to writet up a report--and have them say---
"sorry, private property----nothing we can do"

a guy could drive a 18-wheeler through a truckstop parking lot and demolish a dozen other trucks---and it's all up to a civil court to settle.

EDIT: since 911 there are new laws prohibiting commercial vehicles from approaching Mall parking lots & such as "anti- terrorism" measures-----so yeah Creek does have a good point there.
In the "old days" companies would routinely suggest to their trainers to take their trainees to Mall parking lots, set up Cones and practice. It was a good idea then, as the Truckstop lot isn't a training range. It would still be a good idea now, if you can find one that doesn't ban trucks from parking there.

 

You sound to me like one of those "old timers" (although I hardly think 15 years qualifies someone as an old timer) who refuses (or is unable) to change with the times. Handing out advice that can get a bunch of people in a lot of trouble, if not put them in jail, is not a sign of a professional driver.

 

that's why I said---all you need is a learner's permit and a licensed driver - and no one goes to jail/no laws violated----his brother just gets fired if caught.

or just practice on private property- again no laws violated--just company
policy.

if it were illegal to operate a bob-tail without a license on private property--
almost every mechanic at every trucking terminal/shop would be getting ticketed daily--donut shops would be going in next to each one, and a cop would be staking the places out 24-7.

well- reguardless of how many years it takes to qualify as 'old timer'--it
only seems to take 1 day to be a 'real company man'.

 

You are truly a classic. "His brother just gets fired. That's all." That is a quote for the ages. Somebody needs to make that their sig line.

 

:shock: :shock:

 

We're talking about Swift right?

How about a more realistic prediction.

He trains his brother to drive/ they save $4000.00 on schooling.
His brother gets his CDL in half the time it would take going the other route.

Then he leaves Swift( since he probably wasn't going to stay with them more than 6months anyway)

and then they get a job running team with another company.

How many Husband/Wife Teams you figure are out there--that did it--the exact same way.

 

okay let me just clarify one or two things for the record.. lol... 1.) I'm female... 2.) Its my baby brother who drives for swift so no way in H-E- Double Hockey Sticks am I going to do one thing that would jeapordize his job (whether he's happy there or not) 3.) By "old timers I meant folks that have been driving for longer than 2 weeks :roll: (it was supposed to be facetious... not intended to offend anyone... 4.) yeppers permission has been granted for me to ride-along and the bro is paying $30 a month for insurance on me to be there. Sooooo... I will be abiding by the rules and playing nice and all that. I will not under any circumstance drive that truck anywhere. I'm pretty certain i can learn the pretrip without having to actually drive the vehicle. (at least i hope so) lol 8)

Okay any other questions? :wink:

Oh and thanks to everyone for the good advice I really appreciate it

 

Dang, Kahlana! You "stole my thunder!" I wanted to point out the OBVIOUS that you were definitely NOT a "HE." :lol:

Anyway..... just ONE little "thought" about the pre-trip:

It sounds like you will have lots of time to go over this with your brother. I would suggest that you concentrate on learning and UNDERSTANDING just what it is you are checking.... and WHY. This way, regardless of whether you are tested by a "third party" or the DMV, you will have a better chance of covering ALL the points.

What I mean is..... if you MEMORIZE a "certain" pretrip, and then the 'tester' has another criteria..... you may easily MISS some points.... and NOT KNOW WHY!

I suggest that you STUDY the one in the CDL manual published by the STATE you will be tested in. NOT one by a certain company.

I KNOW it looks "daunting," but it is not really something that needs to be MEMORIZED. It is something that needs to be INTERNALIZED!

If you UNDERSTAND what you are checking AND WHY.... you are more likely to pass ANY pretrip examination, and if you miss something, you will get more lenience "IF" you demonstrate that you KNOW what you are checking, as opposed to having MEMORIZED it. (especially.... hate to say it.... as a WOMAN!)

Besides, as a driver, what you are checking can mean YOUR LIFE! It is better to understand it, than to just REMEMBER the "points" you have to cover. Ask WildKat if she could get by just KNOWING what she needs to check, as opposed to knowing WHY she needs to check it!

Also, it seems that MOST drivers get "nervous" during this part of the test. If this happens, MEMORY will fail you! But, KNOWING the material, will calm you down, and you will KNOW what you might have forgotten to mention!

I "memorized" the pre-trip on my first attempt in CDL school. I did it flawlessly for weeks. [I could "recite" it in less than 7 minutes.]

Soon, I started to UNDERSTAND what, and WHY, I was checking. When I tested out (third party by an instructor AT OUR SCHOOL as opposed to the DMV,) I got a little cocky, and forgot one or two items. The tester said she KNEW that I KNEW the pretrip, and WHAT I was checking, and she passed me.

Here's a small example. I'm not even SURE anymore if it was on the list, but I think it was:

WHY do you check the hub oil levels on your tandem axles?

As you are studying the POINTS of the pre-trip.... ask the question of WHY you are checking it. KNOW the answer, and you will KNOW your truck!

Good luck! I think it will be GREAT for you to get some REAL experience before you go to school. BTW.... DON'T do his logbook for him. It is supposed to ALL be in his handwriting. Do a separate one of your own (as mentioned.) That way, you can make lots of mistakes and just tear out the pages! :lol:

You MIGHT also use it to "practice" split logging, and see if you find any advantages to what you COULD have done differently than the way your brother did it.

Oh.... and while you're OUT there, take EVERY chance to talk to the women drivers!! [Just don't tell your brother what they REALLY think of him/us!!] :lol:

And take down EVERY company name and phone number you get! You might find a better option, right out of the gate! :wink: