Crossing a picket line
#41
I was the one who said the guy sat home just before Verizon came around. No jonp, it was not personal other than for his own safety. He wanted to work but because he was union, he wasn't supposed to due to the strike his union was on against Bell Atlantic. He tried working once before during a union strike and regretted it due to how his buddies from work treated him afterwards. Try reading my post carefully before speaking like a fool next time. Here is what I said:
I had a buddy who's dad was in a union for Bell Atlantic. They went on strike one year and he decided the heck with the union after a month of striking. He went back to work because he was nearly out of money to feed his family. It took his work friends a long time to forgive him over crossing the line and some never did forgive him even though he did it for his families sake. The next time they went on strike, just before the Verizon take over, he sat at home for all but one day of it. He walked only one day just to make it so his buddies didn't think he was crossing again.
#42
Double R, doesn't matter whether they were sold, taken over or merged, that's not the question here.
By the way, that is some support that your "friend's" dad showed towards his "Brothers and Sisters".
#43
Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95
I was the one who said the guy sat home just before Verizon came around. No jonp, it was not personal other than for his own safety. He wanted to work but because he was union, he wasn't supposed to due to the strike his union was on against Bell Atlantic. He tried working once before during a union strike and regretted it due to how his buddies from work treated him afterwards. Try reading my post carefully before speaking like a fool next time. Here is what I said:
I had a buddy who's dad was in a union for Bell Atlantic. They went on strike one year and he decided the heck with the union after a month of striking. He went back to work because he was nearly out of money to feed his family. It took his work friends a long time to forgive him over crossing the line and some never did forgive him even though he did it for his families sake. The next time they went on strike, just before the Verizon take over, he sat at home for all but one day of it. He walked only one day just to make it so his buddies didn't think he was crossing again.
I should have made it clear that my comments were towards union pickets in general. If the person in question made a decision to join a union and his union was affiliated with the strikers in some way then he should honor his membership and not cross the line. If he chooses to do so he does so at his own peril and I would suggest that he resign from the union immediatly. If he did not belong to the union then my original comment stands: no union is going to tell me, as a non-union worker, when I can and cannot work. Short of threatened violence I would honor my commitment to my employer and do the job for which I am getting paid. One of the reasons that I did not take a job at UPS was because it was union. I objected to having to pay the union $600 to get hired then get forced into paying dues whether I wanted to or not. I just thanked the man for his time, shook his hand and left. If you choose to pay this fee for a job then by all means go right ahead and do so.
#44
Originally Posted by Double R
One of the first posts on this subject mentioned that a worker sat home before the company was sold to Verizon.Gee...think that might have had something to do with it?
That poster might want to double-check thier facts:
Verizon Communications Inc. (NYSE: VZ) is an American broadband and telecommunications company and a component of the Dow Jones Industrial Average. It was formed in 2000 when Bell Atlantic, one of the Regional Bell Operating Companies, merged with GTE. Prior to its transformation into Verizon, Bell Atlantic had merged with another Regional Bell Operating Company, NYNEX, in 1997.
#45
Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95
I was the one who said the guy sat home just before Verizon came around. No jonp, it was not personal other than for his own safety. He wanted to work but because he was union, he wasn't supposed to due to the strike his union was on against Bell Atlantic. He tried working once before during a union strike and regretted it due to how his buddies from work treated him afterwards. Try reading my post carefully before speaking like a fool next time. Here is what I said:
I had a buddy who's dad was in a union for Bell Atlantic. They went on strike one year and he decided the heck with the union after a month of striking. He went back to work because he was nearly out of money to feed his family. It took his work friends a long time to forgive him over crossing the line and some never did forgive him even though he did it for his families sake. The next time they went on strike, just before the Verizon take over, he sat at home for all but one day of it. He walked only one day just to make it so his buddies didn't think he was crossing again.
In crossing the line, I think that the person should seriously think about resigning from the union. I can see the hard feelings from the other union members over someone doing that. They think that they are doing the sacrifice and hard work while someone else is reaping the benefits. However, the union should also have enough compassion to look at why that person is doing so and cut them a little slack.
#46
Originally Posted by jonp
One of the reasons jobs are going overseas is because of the unions and the wage/benefit demands that make the cost of doing business here prohibitive.
Originally Posted by jonp
If I'm so unhappy with my job that I would strike then I would quit and find a new job.
Originally Posted by jonp
Personaly If I owned a company and someone came in to "organize" the place I would call a big company meeting with all of the workers and make it plain: "I put my money at stake in this business, Its my good name and credit at stake here and I'm taking all of the financial risk. Before I let someone come in and tell me how to run my own business I will shut this place down, move it overseas and you can find a job elsewhere." Now feel free to vote anyway that you choose.
#47
Senior Board Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 844
I'd cross a picket line. Their dilemma doesn't change the fact that I still have a job to do. The union's going to look out for their best interests, and theirs alone, and I have to do the same.
#48
Senior Board Member
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,149
It's not too hard to understand a majority of drivers would cross a picket line.
Being that a group of union workers are standing up for theirs, their families and workers up and coming to have a better way of living. This means a sacrifice to those on the line (no work, no paycheck!) Lost wages are lost wages and you won't get them back! If those and more drivers would stand together to better the world of trucking, drivers would not have to put up with the crap that they do. Hauling cheap freight, running illegal amd not being compensated for work performed are just a few! But drivers can't or won't unite so things never change, just more of the same! Rhymes with kitchen and starts with a "b" Management or union? I don't place my trust a 100% percent with either of them, but I do know the union would favor me more then management, so yes, I'm looking out for me and my family! It is a free country so do what you gotta do!
#49
Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 66
Originally Posted by freebird
It's not too hard to understand a majority of drivers would cross a picket line.
Being that a group of union workers are standing up for theirs, their families and workers up and coming to have a better way of living. This means a sacrifice to those on the line (no work, no paycheck!) Lost wages are lost wages and you won't get them back! If those and more drivers would stand together to better the world of trucking, drivers would not have to put up with the crap that they do. Hauling cheap freight, running illegal amd not being compensated for work performed are just a few! But drivers can't or won't unite so things never change, just more of the same! Rhymes with kitchen and starts with a "b" Management or union? I don't place my trust a 100% percent with either of them, but I do know the union would favor me more then management, so yes, I'm looking out for me and my family! It is a free country so do what you gotta do! Workers should be protected by law, not by unions.
#50
Originally Posted by classB
I don't trust unions. Many are run by crooks.
Workers should be protected by law, not by unions.
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