Mackman,
I would pick citrus in any field, work at Mickey D"s, and even pick up dog sh*t, I could care less what I have to do to feed my girls and keep a roof over their heads it is a no brainer for me do what you have to do to survive. That is what the Mexican drivers are doing as well...

I do not agree with NAFTA at all, however Clinton started it and Bush has pushed it along so it is here and we must deal with it until change is brought about. Violence and hate is not the answer, as it is not the Mexican drivers fault they did not create NAFTA, American leaders did, The Mexican drivers are just doing their jobs in order to feed their families. This is not an argument about immigration or illeagal status it is simply a man doing his job because American leaders said he could. Human nature brings about the need to survive and we will do what it takes to make that happen you would too. In three years if your job or my job falls apart then you will resort to what ever means needed to survive. That is all the Mexican drivers are doing in my opinion. Truth be told it was our country that took land from Mexico just as we did the American Indian. all of the freedoms that our fore fathers wanted have in reality become a down fall in this country as there is always someone who pushes it way to far and we the people are left to deal with the consequences. Hence why I am so disenfranchised and until some one is strong enough to bring abut change I just live in my own little world and watch the insanity come about...

Believe it or not I know a fuel tank driver named Muhammad, but that would piss off the guy from Boston....

IT IS What It Is.....

Timberwolf

 

This is about a stupid argument. The truth is, if a Mexican is legally here, he could go to traditional driving school and get a job making the same pay as the rest of us. So what are we to think of the guy working for half th price? Is he the dumbest human being on the face of the Earth for taking food out of his families mouth? Or maybe he's illegal and can't get a better job? If it's the latter than round him up and ship him out. Or perhaps you'd like to come spend a week down here on the border and see what kind of damage illegals do.

 

Chasing daylight I know quite a bit about the Mexican traditions and lifestyle, and in fact did live in El Paso for almost two years so I have seen what the illeagals are capable of; no worse then any other human being in a time of desperation or other wise... There are white people here in America that live in third world type housing as well and could care less about getting a hand up. (Good and bad in every race)

Now from my understanding of NAFTA is that the Mexican drivers who come into our country are only allowed to drive from point A in Mexico to point B anywhere in the U.S. and then straight back to Mexico. They are not allowed to drive at will or pick up any U.S. frieght unless it is specificaly destined to go back to Mexico (correct me if I am wrong with this)? How many American Drivers are willing to drive into Mexico with freight, not me, Mexico has become a dangerous country the economy and government corruption has created a hostile environment thus creating a will to surive at any means by their people.
Not to say it has not happened but I find it hard to believe that an illegal could get hired on to an American trucking company, (Werner, Swift, ETC..) with all the checks and rechecks they do these days to investigate your background it seems like it would be hard to accomplish...
Come to America the legal way I agree illegals need to be deported, however in reality how can we stop it. it is just like the war on drugs.
People will find a way around the walls....

Timberwolf

 

The truth is, most won't find away around a legitimate wall. The San Diego wall drastically reduced crossings. The intense enforcement in Texas greatly reduced crossings. Trouble is, the Feds did these things and then proceeded to ignore Arizona. Guess where ground zero for illegal crossing is now?

As far as no company hiring an illegal, I see you are yet another driver stuck in the delusional world where only mega carriers exist. Right off the top there is the local market, I could name a dozen rock haulers that routinely hire illegals (and not just here in AZ, I know a few in Chicago as well.)

 

Chasing Daylight wrote:
As far as no company hiring an illegal, I see you are yet another driver stuck in the delusional world where only mega carriers exist

Dr Daylight Thank you for your amazing insight as to the type of person I am you are truly an insightful individual capable of creating a medical diagnosis without ever meeting an individual. However if you had completly or thoroughly read my post you would have surely noticed I wrote "not to say it has not happened"
If a small time local operator / rock haulers want to side step the law an hire an illeagals then I would have to say that is no company I would want to work for for any amount of money.


timberwolf

 

That happened about 15 miles from me. That bridge got waffled 22 times last year. :shock: Trust me, it's been hit by blacks, whites, men,women,and everything in between.The guy that owns the towing company down that way has made a career out of unwedging trailers from under that bridge. And there are miles of warning signs in either direction warning of the low bridge ahead,yet it still gets plunked pretty much every few weeks.... :lol: [/u]

 

Being from Texas I can honestly say that the only thing we "took" from Mexico was our independence. My decendants fought and died to get away from Mexico, so why should I just sit back and say "OK you can have it back now."

 

Wow, I rank high enough to get sarcasm? I feel so honored. Better yet, sarcasm from someone whoi is dumb enough to brag about willing to pick fruit to support his family, while saying he doesn't blame the people who are driving down his wages and all the while lacking the balls to stand and fight for his own well being. Go ahead, sit there and talk the progressive talk about how all is ok, and they're just looking for work and there's nothing we can do. Then go and take your job picking fruit. But don't ever forget that you are a part of the problem. Those of us who are interested in solutions have no use for you.

 

You must have seen "Little Willie".

He's not really Chinese....he's a chronic masturbator.

 

Hey Trukrswyfe! Let these fellas argue and argue. I need to know... Is that you in the bikini (avatar)? Yummmmm 8) May help me sleep........