HONESTY WITH LOGBOOKS????
#11
02-24-2008, 07:08 PM
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ROKK...well said!
What a lot of people don't think about....is the fact that they can even be caught up to 180 days after the offense if they committed one. A DOT Auditor has access to those logs, fuel print outs with timestamps, Pre-Pass and EZ Pass invoices with timestamps, etc. If they are out of sync badly enough there will be hell to pay. If one is involved in an accident, especially with injuries or a fatality.....all it takes is one bad log and the suing parties lawyer becomes the lawnmower and your life is the grass. If there is a fatality.....prison more than likely if you falsified your logs. If you can't make a decent living logging legally, then you are working for a bottomfeeder.
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#12
02-25-2008, 01:21 AM
logs
Logs aren't hard to keep. Get an understanding of split sleeper - it can help you.
Tolls, fuel stops, and customers - heck those times are most likely in your qualcomm - you gotta be driving, or on duty! Daily mileage, divide it by something between 55 and 60. When all else fails the penalty for not keeping your log current is less than log falsification. You can work the log an hour or so, anything more is going to come back on you. Either your company, or a routine DOT papercheck is going to bust you. When you are a new driver you are always running behind. Don't beat yourself up over it.
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#13
02-25-2008, 03:45 AM
Originally Posted by Templedawg
Best advice, run legal, or make it look legal on paper. We had a driver last year, doing nothing wrong, 2 women left a bar in Starke, Fl, on 301, went south in the north bound lanes. Hit our driver head on, car exploded, 2 women killed, our driven not injured seriously. Dot pulled up EVERYTHING!!!! We sign in/out at the terminal with our dispatches. They pulled the sign out sheets for the last 6 months and matched them to his logs, toll receipts, fuel, everything. Good thing this driver was smart. They had nothing on him. The main point of the story is, you can be doing everything right, legal, plenty of rest, and still have some idiot almost put your butt in a sling. What about the Crete driver in Fla a year or 2 ago, he killed 4 people i think and hadn't shown sleeper in 2 days. I think his log was still 3-4 states away. How much jail time is this clown looking at?
I know how hard it is to keep hours for driving and everything. I did it my first year of driving OTR. I didn't know what a legal log was. Now i am doing LTL and there is no tolerance for illegal logs. You get 1 warning if it was an accident. Then you are gone. If they know you were illegal on purpose, it is automatic out the door. Kind of hard to run illegal though, since we go hub to hub. I'm sure there will be times if you cheat your log, you can get another load for the weekend and not be sitting for 2 days waiting on Monday to reopen the receiver, but just remember however you decide to run, IF SOME IDIOT HITS YOU, AND YOU ARE OVER YOUR TIME OR ILLEGAL, IT IS YOUR FAULT, and you will be held accountable. Funny thing to is, i had a level 1 inspection last week in Ms, with hazmat on. When you are legal DOT inspections are nothing more than a chance to stretch your legs. If you are in an accident and it is not your fault you could be held responsible for that very accident and spend time in prison if someone is killed and it may not even be your fault. If it is your fault, well shame on you for running so hot to do so 
#15
02-26-2008, 03:15 AM
I think if you plan your day ahead of time, like calculate your average speed.. and what's the distance you wanna cover, you can always run legal and still make your deliveries. Just think ahead of time about when you will arive at a TS or RA and how many hours you want to drive .
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