idelair question
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Originally Posted by Drew10
I am not a fan of Idleaire, I know there have been a few posts about it. But I have a question regarding its use. (anyone out there with experience with them).
I pull into a T/S for my 10hr break. I pull into a parking slot serviced by Idleaire. I use there service for maybe 1-2hrs then shut off all there services, push the tube out the window close the curtains and go to sleep. Will Idleaire come around and request that I move my truck to a non-Idleaire spot??? IdleAire is just an option you don't have to use their services to park in those slots the slots are still parking slots at whatever truck stop you're at ,and using IdleAire is just an option.
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Originally Posted by Drew10
Will Idleaire come around and request that I move my truck to a non-Idleaire spot???
#13
IdleAire is just an option you don't have to use their services to park in those slots the slots are still parking slots at whatever truck stop you're at ,and using IdleAire is just an option.
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We use idleaire sometimes. It beats running the truck. We have never been asked to move if we are not using the service BUT we try to be nice to our neighbors and NOT idle our truck while in an idle aire spot.
For the newbies...ALOT of companies offer idleaire to the drivers. I know Arrow pays for like 10 hours (it used to anyways) and there are alot of other companies that offer it. Just ask your dispatcher. I like it because we get cable TV and can hook up our electrical stuff to it while we are parked. We have also been on the other side of the coin and NOT used the service and been denied a parking space (sometimes they block them off) because we were not going to use the service. So I can understand the frusteration of both sides. tootie
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Originally Posted by Drew10
IdleAire is just an option you don't have to use their services to park in those slots the slots are still parking slots at whatever truck stop you're at ,and using IdleAire is just an option.
Well I'm sure they wil ask...But they don't own the parking slots the truck stop does , so they CAN NOT kick you out of a slot for not using the service. I know this because many times late at night or super early morning and I park in these spots , As most drivers won't because they assume Idle air owns the parking slots (they don't ) so there is most time an empty spot . I was asked to leave once and I spoke of this to the manager at the petro I was at ,and he said they CAN NOT make you move they don't own the parking just equipment .
#16
Well I'm sure they wil ask...But they don't own the parking slots the truck stop does , so they CAN NOT kick you out of a slot for not using the service.
Heres a thought, If Idleaire doesnt "own" the parking slots and anybody can park in the slot, what gives them the right to put out the orange cones to hold parking slots for presumed inbound trucks with reservations? If they dont "own" the parking slot they have no right to restrict the parking in that slot.
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While they may not own the parking lot, I'm sure they do in fact lease those spots. In leasing those spots they probably can make you leave, but they don't do it to maintain a good image.
I don't understand why some people get so upset with Idleaire. Yes they charge you for a service and that service requires a space. So why do some drivers feel the right to park anywhere they please? If you don't use it, don't park there. Because you very well might be taking up a spot a paying customer will want and can't get because you're pissed or feel entitled to the spot in question.
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Originally Posted by greg3564
While they may not own the parking lot, I'm sure they do in fact lease those spots. In leasing those spots they probably can make you leave, but they don't do it to maintain a good image.
I don't understand why some people get so upset with Idleaire. Yes they charge you for a service and that service requires a space. So why do some drivers feel the right to park anywhere they please? If you don't use it, don't park there. Because you very well might be taking up a spot a paying customer will want and can't get because you're pissed or feel entitled to the spot in question. Now, if they tell you that you can't park in that spot and you have to move, then what?
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Originally Posted by Malaki86
Originally Posted by greg3564
While they may not own the parking lot, I'm sure they do in fact lease those spots. In leasing those spots they probably can make you leave, but they don't do it to maintain a good image.
I don't understand why some people get so upset with Idleaire. Yes they charge you for a service and that service requires a space. So why do some drivers feel the right to park anywhere they please? If you don't use it, don't park there. Because you very well might be taking up a spot a paying customer will want and can't get because you're pissed or feel entitled to the spot in question. Now, if they tell you that you can't park in that spot and you have to move, then what? What's fair here? A business trying to make a profit giving away free spots? Again, if you take a spot and don't pay and they fill up and then if someone wants to use IdleAir, they can't. Imagine if it's a driver who's company pays for IA and frowns heavily on idling. You've now screwed that driver. The bottom line is IA is most likely here to stay and drivers need to just accept the fact that they will take up some spots. It's only going to spread as more truck stop locations are accepting IA. Your real beef is with the truck stops. Don't blame it on IA.
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The problem there is that when you pull into most IdleAire equipped truckstops, the free parking spots are completely full and only a few trucks in the IA spots.
I remember an issue of the T/A magazine had an articile about Idleaire, and the rules of use. One rule clearly stated that you do not have to use the service to park in one of the Idleaire slots. Again IMO Idleaire created and contributed to another problem in the industry, parking. It is just somebodies idea to capitalize on the truckdrivers. The investment monies utilized in establising and maintaining (let alone paying employees) Idleaire, probably could have been better invested in APU's, to help offset the cost of the unit and installing them on the trucks. I still have a feeling that Idleaire is going to go out of business like the old Park and View (or whatever they were), and all that investment monies will be lost. |
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