Inverters....
#11
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Every inverter out there nowadays has built in overload protection. They WILL shut themselves down if you overload them, or at worst they may fry themselves, but it's very unlikely they'll cause a fire. What causes fire is high current with high resistance, caused by improper wiring. When you're pulling your 1500 watts through cables that aren't rated for it, or through a bad connection that has too much resistance, you can start a fire. Fires are caused by drivers who don't know how to wire an inverter, NOT by overtaxing an inverter!
#12
If i look at my fuel route, and notice "fuel-swift-oklahoma city-fill up", you better bet i am going to stop at the pilot off exit 140, and pack it away.
#13
Has NOTHING to do with it!!!!
Every inverter out there nowadays has built in overload protection. They WILL shut themselves down if you overload them, or at worst they may fry themselves, but it's very unlikely they'll cause a fire. What causes fire is high current with high resistance, caused by improper wiring. When you're pulling your 1500 watts through cables that aren't rated for it, or through a bad connection that has too much resistance, you can start a fire. Fires are caused by drivers who don't know how to wire an inverter, NOT by overtaxing an inverter!
#14
well i look at it like this.....kinda like if you work in an office where jacket and tie is required, except on fridays, when the office manager tells you 'under the table' it is okay to wear jeans. Then you're told the regional manager will be in on the 5th (which happens to be a friday), and you're dumb enough to wear jeans when officially you arnet supposed to.
If i look at my fuel route, and notice "fuel-swift-oklahoma city-fill up", you better bet i am going to stop at the pilot off exit 140, and pack it away.
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#15
I'm just a little bit curious. I've had a few inverters, of varying sizes. Up to a 600 watt, I simply plugged into a cigarette lighter outlet. The thousand watt had cables that ran through a hole in the floor, under the sleeper. You're talking about a 1500 watt. How do you plan to run the cables into the truck so that you can make use of it? Or are you going to stop, hook it up outside, and run the power inside? If someone gets under your truck with a creeper ( yes, they do this at times), a hole for that size cables is not that hard to see. How do you plan on hiding that?
and when/if i do find a hole, i'd figure out a way to put a flap of material over the hole. It isnt like I will have the inverter hooked up to the battery while i'm driving. It'd only get hooked up when i sit for my 10 hour break or longer.....
#16
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If you go with the Cobra 1500watt Inverter- you can get by with 4-guage wire Minimum, you'll need 15feet of black and red. You can find it next time you stop by a Tractor Supply Co. or Farm & Fleet-- will cost you 100.00. Get 4guage O-ring terminals. Then in the electrical section of Wal-Mart 2 packages of 3/4 Black "cable neat" and some large wire ties to cover them up. Look for the plastic plugs in the bottom of the sleeper floor ( easier to spot from the outside. There's no need to cut or tear up anyone's truck.
For that matter, I ran around with a box under my bed with 2 AGM Truck batteries tied together(parellel) then ran a 12-guage wire with cigerate lighter socket to them -- then a jumper cable to an interier cig lighter socket ( to keep those batteries charged up-- hence no wiring anything perminent to the truck.) If you're wiring something larger- you can use electric welding cable 2-guage ( it's cheaper than going with the red or black ). I agree, most fires are caused because drivers don't know how to wire properly- loose connections cause heat. It's also a good idea to place an in-line fuse or breaker down near the battery end of your hot wire-- you'll need a 275 amp fuse/holder.
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Good advice borg...
Here's the way I look at it. I'm pretty sure from the responses from the other swift drivers here that doing what you're talking about is cause for immediate termination. It certainly was at my last company! At the end of the day...is it really worth it to you? Right now you're employed. If you get terminated for not following company policy, your chances of employment are somewhere between slim and none. With your lack of experience most companies will look at you like you just got out of driving school, and most training companies are either very selective or just not hiring student drivers anymore. In either case, they wouldn't touch anyone who was terminated! Think of all you're risking....
#18
Good advice borg...
Here's the way I look at it. I'm pretty sure from the responses from the other swift drivers here that doing what you're talking about is cause for immediate termination. It certainly was at my last company! At the end of the day...is it really worth it to you? Right now you're employed. If you get terminated for not following company policy, your chances of employment are somewhere between slim and none. With your lack of experience most companies will look at you like you just got out of driving school, and most training companies are either very selective or just not hiring student drivers anymore. In either case, they wouldn't touch anyone who was terminated! Think of all you're risking....
#19
Just wondering if this "no Inverter" policy that some of you mention applies to the 150 and 300 watt size that plug into cigarette lighter receptacles?
I'm particularly interested in Crete and Heartland policy on these. The 150 and 300 are the only ones I've ever used and in the last several years mostly just a 150 to power my 17" laptop/TV/DVD player. The inverters are both fused, have great cooling fans, and really don't see much difference between them and the other 12 volt "appliances" used on the road by many of us. Bought a new 150 a couple weeks ago for my pickup while visiting a BestBuy....great cooling fan on it and has one plug in receptacle along with a cigarette lighter recepticle. Also sits great in my cup holder. Amazon.com: CyberPower CPS150CHI AC Mobile Power Inverter/Converter, 12VDC to 120VAC, 150W, Cup-Mount: Electronics Have fun.
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Just wondering if this "no Inverter" policy that some of you mention applies to the 150 and 300 watt size that plug into cigarette lighter receptacles?
I'm particularly interested in Crete and Heartland policy on these. The 150 and 300 are the only ones I've ever used and in the last several years mostly just a 150 to power my 17" laptop/TV/DVD player. The inverters are both fused, have great cooling fans, and really don't see much difference between them and the other 12 volt "appliances" used on the road by many of us. Bought a new 150 a couple weeks ago for my pickup while visiting a BestBuy....great cooling fan on it and has one plug in receptacle along with a cigarette lighter recepticle. Also sits great in my cup holder. Amazon.com: CyberPower CPS150CHI AC Mobile Power Inverter/Converter, 12VDC to 120VAC, 150W, Cup-Mount: Electronics Have fun. Heartland policy is -- 100% total- No inverters (period) Crete- you can have one as long as you don't "hardwire" it into the truck- modify the wiring or obviously no Big Inverter... yes, the microwave/refridgerator would probably be a dead giveaway. But, the Freightliner Century/Columbia fuse box has a very nice place/power fuse block where you can quickly clip the small alligator clips to the positive and ground to the frame-- and you can get maybe 800watts from there. Not enough power to start and run a microwave( I don't think: .95kw input). The box of 2 deep cycle batteries connected to your inverter and a small cord ran to the cig lighter to keep them charged/ recharged gets around the 'no wire up' policy..... but now that Crete is putting APU's on their trucks-- makes the whole inverter issue a mute point. Less of course, you're not one of the 'lucky ones' with an APU-- while those drivers are saving up to 150.00 a week with a microwave, etc you're not having an extra 150 added to YOUR check- but still not allowed to have an inverter in the interm until they get around to installing an APU on your assigned truck. Kinda unfair---giving half your fleet a break( pay raise) while the other half toils on.
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