Is this legal?
#41
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Oregon
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Originally Posted by golfhobo
Then, using this defense, I don't see anything shady, unethical or "abusive" about a company trying to get someone to "backhaul" his freight at a fraction of the going rate.... or a company/owner operator who is willing to undercut others to GET that load. Yet we all agree that it has nearly destroyed the income potential for truckers, and is just more of the "more money for ME" mentality of big business.
This is free market and competition at work. It is what drives productivity increases and innovation(eg. better fuel mileage, lower maintenance costs, heavier legal payloads). What is "abusive" of a customer making a offer to pay less for a service? The provider of the service can refuses the offer. This is business negotiations. The buyer of service or product wants to pay as little as possible, and the seller wants to make as much as he can. What is abusive about that?
#42
Originally Posted by danske
Originally Posted by golfhobo
Then, using this defense, I don't see anything shady, unethical or "abusive" about a company trying to get someone to "backhaul" his freight at a fraction of the going rate.... or a company/owner operator who is willing to undercut others to GET that load. Yet we all agree that it has nearly destroyed the income potential for truckers, and is just more of the "more money for ME" mentality of big business.
This is free market and competition at work. It is what drives productivity increases and innovation(eg. better fuel mileage, lower maintenance costs, heavier legal payloads). What is "abusive" of a customer making a offer to pay less for a service? The provider of the service can refuses the offer. This is business negotiations. The buyer of service or product wants to pay as little as possible, and the seller wants to make as much as he can. What is abusive about that? Better yet..... just sit around and wait a month or two, and you can ask a Chinese or Mexican who just TOOK your load!! :roll: :lol: But, don't worry..... you can always go down to Mexico and undercut the local "Camionerri" for a few pesos to haul HIS load! :shock:
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#43
Originally Posted by Ridge Runner
I had one walk up to my front porch a few weeks ago, and when I turned on the porch light, he just froze!!! We talked for about an HOUR, and he never even lifted his head!!
:shock: Mine always talk back to me. :P I don't think he could get a word in edgewise!! :lol: :wink:
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#44
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Oregon
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Originally Posted by golfhobo
Gee, Danske.... I wouldn't KNOW (since I drive company.) Why not ask an O/O who has to pay for his fuel with no surcharge??
Better yet..... just sit around and wait a month or two, and you can ask a Chinese or Mexican who just TOOK your load!! :roll: :lol:
But, don't worry..... you can always go down to Mexico and undercut the local "Camionerri" for a few pesos to haul HIS load! :shock:
Your arguments do not address free market and competition issues that promote innovation and productivity.
#45
Originally Posted by danske
Originally Posted by golfhobo
Gee, Danske.... I wouldn't KNOW (since I drive company.) Why not ask an O/O who has to pay for his fuel with no surcharge??
Better yet..... just sit around and wait a month or two, and you can ask a Chinese or Mexican who just TOOK your load!! :roll: :lol:
But, don't worry..... you can always go down to Mexico and undercut the local "Camionerri" for a few pesos to haul HIS load! :shock:
Your arguments do not address free market and competition issues that promote innovation and productivity.
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#46
In answer to the original question.... Anything you sign and agree to can be held as binding in court under "Contract Law". Now, if it is in contravention of local or state laws, or Federal law....the court will strike it down. But, you will not arrive at that decision until you have paid a lawyer a hefty sum.
SO, the old adage "Caveat Emptor" comes into play. If you don't agree with it, don't sign it. If it means finding another job...go find another job.
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