Is this a Legal way to Log my hours??
#21
02-21-2009, 04:15 PM
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 1,658
what you gotta do is have one logbook under your seet and one thats all nice and pretty for the DOT man. when you roll into the chikencoop you show em the legitamate one and when your movin you dont log notin at all. you just drive until you get 715 miles per day don't matter how long it takes you. at the end of the day go back and draw lines with a nice sharp ballpoint pen and make it look nice and legal and all and then divide your odomater miles by 65 mph. aint nobody invented a way to get paid when the wheels dont turn so you gotta keep em movin if you want to earn a good payday. If you get tired just pop some nodoze pills and drink about 2 monster energy drinks then polish it off with a redbull. onetime I bought some a this powdered stuff from a Mexican guy at the Pilot down in Dallas and I ran like the wind for 3 days straight now that sure was a big settlement check!!!!!!
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#22
02-21-2009, 04:15 PM
Which way are you heading after Phoenix? I'm heading out now to go get a load heading to Phoenix. Will come back home and leave tomorrow for a Tuesday delivery, then jump over to LA for a load back.
#23
02-21-2009, 04:18 PM
I unload Monday morning, then it's back to Cali. Not sure where in Cali yet.
#24
02-21-2009, 04:38 PM
Okay, this time I'll be nice and be a little more specific.
You can log line 1 during the day as long as you are free to pursue activities of your choice. Basically (and this is how the regs word it), you have to be "relieved of duty" by your motor carrier. If you are sitting in your driver's seat waiting to unload, you are on line 3. (I'm sure golfhobo will disagree) If you are in the sleeper berth waiting to unload, you are on line 2. If you aren't free to leave to go eat or do another activity of your choice while you are waiting to unload, you are on line 4. (although most people would log it as line 1 to save hours). But yes - it is legal to log line 1 during your 14 hour day. Most carriers relieve their drivers of duty for lunch periods. I've had carriers I've run for who actually gave me cards that stated such. But regardless, as soon as i send in my mac 1 or mac 5....i note the time.....log that, then show 15 min. of 'work' to the shipper/cosignee and thats that. dont matter if i end up having to reposition the trailer to another dock. I still remain on line 2. only time i ever go to line 1, is when i go inside a truck stop or rest area for any length of time to take care of personal business, or when I'm on a hot date having dinner. =) yes you CAN log line 1....but if you're actually in the sleeper, why not just log line 2?
#25
02-21-2009, 08:28 PM
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#26
02-21-2009, 10:21 PM
When I goto places that I know are going to take a while to unload me I log 30 on duty then I go up to off duty, because I lock my truck and walk away. I have a cell phone and they call me when im empty.
 I go for lots of walks, it helps fight off the truck stop food belly :lol: So am I logging it wrong ? Im not around my truck, someone else is doing the work "unloading it" ! Just wondering, because I would have to fix a few days :lol:
#27
02-21-2009, 10:30 PM
I would do it like this: Flag the time I started at the beginning of the day at my location with the mileage because the post-trip 15min was done the night before and you don't have to log 15min at the beginning of the day. I would drive to the customer and either flag it if they couldnt get me right off or log 15 min check-in then go into the sleeper for however long I was there. When I was done I would log 15 min for getting the paperwork, closing the doors, drawing a line in the logbook, whatever. Under no circumstances would I ever log more than 1/2 hr on duty at any customer for any reason. I went for years logging 15min total at every customer then spending the rest of the time in the sleeper and had scalemasters in every state look at my logs and have no problem with them. The only reason I log 15 min check-in when I arrive and 15 min when I leave now is that it's company policy. I don't mind it because that adds up to 1 - 1.5 hours a week and if that little time makes that much difference to you then you need to get out of the truck more often
#28
02-21-2009, 10:32 PM
Our log books each have a 'letter' stating the company authorizes the driver (fill in name) to take an hour off for lunch each day. anytime you are in your drivers seat.....regardless if it is just picking your nose with the engine off, that is technically line 3...cause if a cop pulls up, you appear to be operating a motor vehicle. if i know i'm going to be sitting at a dock waiting to get un/loaded, i'm in the sleeper.
But regardless, as soon as i send in my mac 1 or mac 5....i note the time.....log that, then show 15 min. of 'work' to the shipper/cosignee and thats that. dont matter if i end up having to reposition the trailer to another dock. I still remain on line 2. only time i ever go to line 1, is when i go inside a truck stop or rest area for any length of time to take care of personal business, or when I'm on a hot date having dinner. =) yes you CAN log line 1....but if you're actually in the sleeper, why not just log line 2?
#29
02-21-2009, 11:14 PM
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Speedway Indiana
Posts: 1,751
This wouldn't even be a consideration if you weren't being paid in a manner that is illegal in most every other occupation in the United States.
Who else goes to work and tries to hide/cover up time spent working for a company? What a rip off! Simple answer topset: You had best be in lock step with the entire OTR industry scam. This usually dictates logging 15-30 minutes max at a receiver/shipper no matter what you spend your time doing. That's just the way it is. Wrong? Not only wrong, but illegal. Just one of the many decisions like this that you will have to make daily as an OTR driver. If you get caught, it's your arse, not theirs. (the carriers) This is where the much heralded phrase; "Work 80-100, log 70, paid 40" comes from. Even though they dislike it to the hilt, even the staunchest OTR diehards will not argue with it. In a nutshell. Go local!:lol: Last edited by belpre122; 02-21-2009 at 11:23 PM.
#30
02-22-2009, 12:55 AM
Same here...I run a legit log all day.....When I park for the night I tear that up and back log,taking all the breaks out,and back it up against the prior day as far as I can......Loose leaf logs rock.......Of course we don't have qualcom or any such kuhrap..... |
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