Pulled over with a CDL Permit
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Originally Posted by Fredog
overweight fines and equipment violations go aginst the owner of the truck no matter who is driving.
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Originally Posted by ssoutlaw
Originally Posted by Fredog
overweight fines and equipment violations go aginst the owner of the truck no matter who is driving.
kc0iv
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Originally Posted by kc0iv
Originally Posted by ssoutlaw
Originally Posted by Fredog
overweight fines and equipment violations go aginst the owner of the truck no matter who is driving.
kc0iv You know I was just looking at your profile and your a O/O so a equip. ticket would be your fault as the driver and owner!!!
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Any ticket issued to the truck, whether it be overweight, equiptment or ??? after the truck leaves the yard is the responsibility of the driver. You shouldn't take it if it won't pass inspection ! Why ? Because it is unsafe and as you did you assume liability. One exception is coming up, that is container haulers from the docks. FMCSA says the owner of the trailer is responsible for all discrepancies.
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Originally Posted by Walking Eagle
Any ticket issued to the truck, whether it be overweight, equiptment or ??? after the truck leaves the yard is the responsibility of the driver. You shouldn't take it if it won't pass inspection ! Why ? Because it is unsafe and as you did you assume liability. One exception is coming up, that is container haulers from the docks. FMCSA says the owner of the trailer is responsible for all discrepancies.
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Not the container the container carrier. FMCSA has finaly come up with something to help the driver/OO and is saying the owner of the trailer/carrier is responsible for the maintainance not the driver having to pay tickets or put tires on it when he is only going to pull it for 30 minutes and never ever see it again. Did you ever do a pre trip and everything looked fine then get 100 miles down the road and get a class A inspection and get a whole arm full of tickets ? Hmmm, have you ever done a pre trip ?? Try reading the FMCSA web site some time.
Maybe, with luck, it will filter down to includ the J.B. Hunts and Swift's one day.
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Originally Posted by Walking Eagle
Not the container the container carrier. FMCSA has finaly come up with something to help the driver/OO and is saying the owner of the trailer/carrier is responsible for the maintainance not the driver having to pay tickets or put tires on it when he is only going to pull it for 30 minutes and never ever see it again. Did you ever do a pre trip and everything looked fine then get 100 miles down the road and get a class A inspection and get a whole arm full of tickets ? Hmmm, have you ever done a pre trip ?? Try reading the FMCSA web site some time.
Maybe, with luck, it will filter down to includ the J.B. Hunts and Swift's one day.
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I was cited for an equipment violation in California. Cracked weld up underneath the trailer (very small!). At least in CA, I was informed (by CHP) that my "owners responsibility" card was expired by a month or so, and that since it wasn't valid I would recieve the citation for the equipment. Had that owners responsibility card been valid, the company would've recieved the ticket. Apparently its a document that states that the company will incur all cites and fines for equipment violations (it was news to me at the time). Of course the company paid the ticket and updated the documentation rather quickly. Not sure how it works other places, but I guess that's how California plays the game.
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Originally Posted by ssoutlaw
Originally Posted by kc0iv
Originally Posted by ssoutlaw
Originally Posted by Fredog
overweight fines and equipment violations go aginst the owner of the truck no matter who is driving.
kc0iv You know I was just looking at your profile and your a O/O so a equip. ticket would be your fault as the driver and owner!!! The problem with your theory is you are leaving out one important point. You as the driver are required to certify BEFORE you drive the tractor and trailer that it meets ALL safety standards. You are required to check the previous day's inspection report that it passed and/or all repairs were done and signed off. Failure to do this requirement set yourself up for a ticket for driving a tractor and/or trailer not meeting safety standards. One important point to remember is any ticket written to you should make sure it is taken care of. Do not simply send it the company and forget about it. Make sure it has in fact been taken care of. One problem that happens is for those that pull different trailers. You have no way of knowing if a trailer has a outstanding ticket that has not been taken care of. You get taken around back and when they run the background check they find it hasn't been taken of and they can put you out-of-service. As an example of what can happen. I got a ticket for broken spring on the trailer. I was placed out-of-service. Had the spring replaced and MO DOT verify it was repaired and I was released. Sent the ticket to the company and verify they received it. About 30 days later a warrant was issued for my arrest for failure to appear and/or to pay the ticket. I was lucky I happen to be home at the time and was able to handle the ticket by wiring the court for the amount of the ticket and then get the money back from the company. Had I been on the road and got pulled behind the DOT office or stopped by law enforcement I not only have been put out-of-service I could have been taken to jail to resolve this ticket. Again let me repeat -- It is the driver's responsibility to know the equipment meets all safety standards. kc0iv |
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