But it's all lies. The NYT is a shill for Saddam and OBL. Pinochet, too. And Pol Pot. Yes, even from the grave, Pol Pot controls the NYT. 8)

 

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If you would like to see what happens to drivers in Iraq just check out the
link above, you will have to copy and paste, or you can just go to a site called Orgish.com..
WARNING.. this is a brutal site that contains very graphic photos of life in general and war..
There are lots of photos of death, NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART...........
However after seeing this video a driver would think twice before putting his life on the line.

It Is What It Is...


Timberwolf

 

Well.... I have certainly learned ALOT from this thread!

I learned that Yoopr wasn't in Iraq as MILITARY, but as a civilian contractor! Wow! What a let down. He's been SO vocal about it all.

I ALSO learned (because he didn't edit his own "quote" of the offending post,) that he objected to some silly language about horny military women! And THAT is enough to get censored on this site by HIM! Hey! "I" was in the military, and many of the women WERE horny! You ever BEEN with any of them, Yoopr?? I married one!

Yoopr: You shouldn't let this "moderator" thing go to your head!

I ALSO learned that one could go to Iraq and drive a truck (or a bus) and STILL be "somewhat" safe and make a bunch of money! Hmm.... I think I'll look into it. Cuz.... I don't have a woman either, and my life probably IS worth only 80k or so!

Yoopr: I RESPECT your service in Iraq (even tho I now know it wasn't MILITARY.) But, I don't think as a tanker driver for KBR, YOU are the final repository of knowledge as to whether or not there were WMD's (your letter about Sarin gas, nothwithstanding) and I think you should clarify your position a bit more, and "Stand Down" the American flag waving!

And get your finger off the ban/warn button!

This IS still America.... and we DO have a certain amount of freedom of speech! And YOU (if you served in the military) and the REST of us Veterans, fought for that right.

Geez, I'll bet if you were a MOD on a Dutch Trucker's site, you'd warn someone for saying they saved a whole TOWN by sticking their finger in a DYKE!!! :lol:

Oops! NOW I've done it... Hey, RoadHog.... you got any sandwiches?? We could be DOWN here in the dungeon for awhile! :lol:

 

See.... Yoopr, this is EXACTLY why I say YOU don't know what you're talking about!

19, physically fit, no ties at home. This is EXACTLY what is needed over there! Right now we have middle aged men, reservists, with families at home who are thinking about getting killed instead of thinking about KILLING the enemy!

Bush has turned this whole thing upside down! Wars have ALWAYS been fought by the "expendable!" The young and unattached! If a YOUNG man dies for his country, hopefully only his parents will grieve, until THEY die! If a FATHER dies for his country, his wife and CHILDREN will live with the pain for at least 2 to 3 times as long!

We need MORE young men like Douglas to go over there and DIE for Haliburton (I mean America!) If we don't get enough of them... we'll have to do a backdoor draft of Reservists from Vietnam or Gulf War I.... oh, I forgot... that is EXACTLY what Bush is doing!!

Now... you can "warn" me if you wish.... but I speak the truth!

Douglas asked a question about whether or not he could use his CDL to make money in Iraq. YOU told him he had no business BEING there. I got an idea.... why don't YOU enlist and be a First Shirt over there and help guide and protect these YOUNG men who will do the "heavy work?"

Oh... and BTW... how much did YOU pocket for working for Haliburton/KBR over there?

Hobo

 

My unit was in the Middle East in '67 on standby during Israeli War-I was in country Vietnam from '68-70(2 Tours) and Caught a piece of shrapnel in Iraq in '04. Don't need YOUR lecture.
About the Sarin Gas in the IED-This particular IED was right in front of Us so I do know a bit about it and Another IED with Mustard gas happened about a month Later so I DO know what the hell I'm talking about. EVERYBODY on my crew were Combat Vets and that's what KBR tries to find and we Were under direct orders of the Dept. of the Army.

When Exactly were you in Iraq Again?
PS-We were Outside the "Wire" more than most of the Troops.
Obviously you Still have no clue what's going on there-Safe?? You're a Joke.
You don't speak the Truth-You speak Leftist Crap.
PSS-You couldn't Get a Job driving Tankers in Iraq-You don't have the Experience in trucking and probably couldn't pass the WABI test or the The Security background checks.
I've neve threatened to ban or "Warn" anybody on this thread so you can stick that one too.
This THREAD, by the way, was someone asking about Trucking jobs in Iraq. Not you're Left wing comments about Iraq.

 

They were not truck drivers but... It don't matter who you are, as long as you are an American that cannot fight back, you will be a target. In other words, a civilian of any profession.

 

Don't believe everything you hear about not having Weapons plus I doubt if you're aware of the April '04 ambush, when I was there, with KBR Tanker drivers taking over many of the Army's gun trucks taking the fight to the Terrorists in a massive Ambush. Over 2,000 rounds counted afterwords
Like I said before-Tankers were #1 target because everything in Iraq ran on JP8 and everyone was a combat Vet.
Waaaaaaay too many Rumors of what is actually happening and they're like trucking rumors-99.9% BS.

 

I cherish all the men,and women that have laid down their lives for our country,whether they wore a uniform,or not. I have a lot of respect for Yoopr,and I enjoy reading his posts. Now,he may have served in our Military,or maybe he was just a civilian,I dunno. That is beside the point. Look at John Wayne. Duke Wayne never served during WWI,WWII,or any other war in our history. Its quite clear that the Duke never cleared out the Indians,nor did he ever serve during the American Civil War,but John Wayne is an American Hero. After reading many posts in this forum that Yoopr wrote about the war in Iraq,it seems that he experienced quite a bit while he was there. He was there,and he saw what went on over there. Maybe he didnt wear a uniform,or stand on the front line. I would guess that it takes a lot of courage just being over there,driving a truck,or just handing out bottles of water to our troops,or fueling jeeps. I would think that it would be an honor to be among our Military,wearing a uniform or not. That is pretty harsh when someone judges someone else just because they didnt pack an iron,or wear a uniform during a war. Anytime yall see an American flag flying at a school,or courthouse,or in front of someone's house,ya think about the men,and women that have laid down their lives for our freedom....Military,or not..

 

I don't see why it should matter whether someone is in the military or not. Yoopr has served this country as both a military enlistee as well as a civilian. I don't see why you would want to berate him for doing something which he believes. I don't see why anyone would doubt that those who serve as civilian contractors or military personnel would be in harms way if they are working in Iraq. Have you forgotten about the truck driver who was kidnapped and almost killed? I believe he lived in Mississippi. He was fortunate that he lived through the incident. Personally, I have no desire to go to Iraq, but if that is what you want to do, more power to you. You can continue to blame Bush for lives lost, but I remember that we were brutally and savagely attacked on 9/11. Thousands of lives were extinguished in an instant. There comes a time when you need to stand up for what you believe. There are some who seem to think that if you turn the other cheek and given in to tyranny, they will go away. That NEVER happens. The only way to deal with tyranny is brutal force. You destroy them. You seem to forget that Congress agreed to go into Iraq. If you don't like their decision, then an election is coming up in November. You can vote every one of them out of office. As far as WMD's are concerned, I have no doubt that they were present. I would rather trust someone who has been there than the media. The government isn't going to give us all the information it has on WMD's or anything else which could compromise our security. While I don't necessarily trust everything the government tells us, you are only mentioning the President. He is only one man representing one branch in the government. The President cannot declare war without Congress, as some of them would lead you to believe. Unfortunately, it is a failure of our educational system that so many have no idea of how our form of government works. Just because a situation gets a little difficult, some would have us cut and run. That is one thing which has resulted in our present situation. I have no doubt that the reason we had to go into Iraq and the events of 9/11 are a direct result of the failures of previous administrations and congress. They didn't want to confront these terrorists when they first started to show their ugly heads. Because of their failures, we are now in a war with no end in sight. It is easy to blame Bush for the failures of Congress. You can also blame the person you see in the mirror for failing to vote or at least to know for whom you are voting. It is easy to blame Bush. When you can blame him, you don't have to accept any responsibility for your own lack of action. I salute our military as well as those who serve, such as yoopr, in a civilian capacity. In some respects, I think civilians are in greater danger, since many may not be able to adequately defend themselves.

 

John Wayne is an American Hero???

I would like to know what he did to be considered a hero, I love his movies, but being called a hero... maybe he did things for people that I am unaware of if so fill me in so I will not go on thinking he was just an actor.....

"pretty harsh when someone judges someone else just because they didn't pack an iron,or wear a uniform during a war"

Yoppr has himself has called me out on the carpet for not serving in uniform. He seems to overreact to certain post if they do not agree with his beliefs, I guess we all do that I am guilty of such acts, I understand why you don't see Josh posting as much as he used too maybe he grew tired of all the B.S.

Yoopr I do not think Golfhobo is a leftist he is just a man who is tired of seeing people die.... I suppose you think Vietnam was a war that was righteous and needed to be fought? This war in Iraq has grown out of control PERIOD...... It is FUBAR and our Government does not know how to stop the bleeding, just like Vietnam..
It is the sad truth as I see it and that is my American right to state such...
Now you can exercise your American right to call me a leftist or liberal or what have you. I really do not care any more...

Remember I am a disenfranchised American......

It Is What It Is.

Timberwolf