Look who I "hero worship" and look who you "hero worship".
Hero worshipping idiots..................isnt something I'd brag about.

 

Billy Big Rigger

 

Since I mentioned the "cheerleaders" accident on this thread already, I want to go back to that for a moment. IIRC, one or two of them were straight A students. ALL had many redeeming qualities according to the reports. They were bright, cheerful young ladies with big plans to help others in life.

Today I heard that there is evidence that, just prior to the crash, the driver's cellphone was involved in TEXT MSGing. Now, that's not saying that someone ELSE might not have been doing it besides the driver, but what if she WERE?

What a STUPID, IDIOTIC thing to be doing!!! So now, we can DEFINITELY disrespect HER!! :roll:

Inmate: You don't EVER use your cellphone while strapped into your seat, do you?

Anyone.... and EVERYONE who does, obviously has NO respect for their OWN lives or for anyone ELSE'S (a statement with NO logic,) so we can disrespect nearly EVERY person who dies in an auto crash these days!

And while we're at it.... let's not respcet ANYONE who dies from cancer if they smoke. And ALL obese people DESERVE to die!! :roll:

Anyone who drives a cheap car, with no substantial protection, MUST be an idiot, and ALL bicyclists who think they can share the road with vehicles that can kill them must be out of their friggin minds.... so, who cares if THEY die??

 

I also read a story about some drunken chick who fell 15 feet from a balcony because she was doing "hand stands" on the railing.
Am I suppose to feel sorry for her?
Or her parents?

I also read that this person involved in the crash was text messaging before the crash.
I'm suppose to feel sorry for these people, or the other driver involved in the accident.

Every year we get the "Darwin Awards" and gleefully chuckle at the stupidity others, such as the guy who was sick and tired of the cactus in his yard so when he was cutting it down, it fell on him.

Because I dont waste my time morning over the deaths of people who should know better, especially a "straight A" student , I wouldnt call that "disrespect", I'd call that not wasting my time.

Hey when Fred Phelps dies, will you show the same "respect" you brag about?

Save your hypocritical postings for someone else. I've seen too much to know the difference. But please dont try to comprehend anything I've said, apply logic or rational thinking.

 

You said it, yourself, Inmate:

You've apparently seen so much useless carnage on the roads, that you now believe every crash must be the cause of someone's "stupidity" and you've lost all respect for "average" people who are sometimes careless.

All the report had to say was that this driver wasn't wearing his seatbelt (which probably wouldn't have mattered,) and he is "convicted" in your eyes as being "stupid" and deserving of what he got.

This is the anti-social behaviour I was speaking of. I'm sorry for you. Apparently, YOU have also been the "victim" of the accidents you've seen.

We ALL have alot of respect for the various "first responders" you mentioned. However, when they become so jaded as to no longer CARE about any and ALL victims that they "recover," then they need to get out of the business.

As I said, I can understand and sometimes echo your "head shaking" disbelief when someone dies because of their own stupidity, but that doesn't make it any less tragic, and in the case of this driver, there is not YET any proof that he is totally "responsible."

And, either way.... he is still a fellow driver, and you COULD have shown a little respect or caring. You chose NOT to, and THAT is what I found distasteful.

Perhaps, I went a bit over on saying you disgraced the whole human race... (that IS kinda hard to do!...) but, I wouldn't nominate you for the Caring Driver of the Year award!

I don't know who Fred Phelps is.... but if he's a FELLOW driver, or a FELLOW Veteran.... yes, I'll have some respect for him. If he's a scumsucking Axe murderer... I doubt that I will.

Now, how is THAT, or anything ELSE I said, "hypocritical?"

I see no reason to respect anyone who intentionally takes another's life. But, I see no reason to disrespect (or show a lack of sympathy for) someone who kills himself as a result of a human fallability.

I couldn't give a hoot if you "waste your time" caring for anyone who dies for whatever reason. But, yes... when you come out and SAY that you don't care, that shows a certain lack of respect for the dead.

You made a post indicating that you pretty much felt he deserved it. IMHO, that was a declaration of disrespect. I posted my response to it.

Now... can YOU follow that logical thinking?

 

http://www.chemonline.cc/news/NewsDetail.asp?id=937

I worked with this guy for 4 years. one day he said to me 'I have been running this road for years, I know what my truck will do" apparently, he was wrong

 

No I essentially made a post that said, I dont care if stupid people die doing stupid and preventable things. Chances are they would have killed someone who was truly innocent and truly the only victim of someone elses negligent actions. I dont GAF if the guy drove a truck, since I have more respect for the millions of drivers that seemed to have gone through life without breaking the law and engaging in dangerous activity and not endangering the lives of others. I'd rather be associated with that group of drivers

Let me ask you this. What if BBR had been tooling down the road and slammed into your family(God forbid) and killed them as well as himself?
You going to attend both funerals? Send flowers to his family with a note that says "no hard feelings xoxoxoxo"? Or are you going to be pissed off at the total stupidity of this person that could have avoided the tragedy?

 

Then outlaw stupidity, euthanize everyone with an I.Q like your OWN! Or take away their cars! Let's start shooting people who hold up a line at Walmart because they want to pay with "correct change!" :roll:

Not if you don't want to.... just keep your comments about him "deserving it" to yourself. There is no proof that wearing a seatbelt would have protected him while hitting a concrete bridge abuttment. Maybe, he wasn't speeding but talking on the cellphone. I asked you... do YOU ever talk on the cellphone while driving?

I know the meaning. Do you? A society is a group of people who share the same concerns and living conditions. They "tend" to care about each other, and the events that affect any or all of them. So, NOW you are advocating the death penalty for ALL drunk drivers, even BEFORE they kill someone? Anti-social means not able to "associate" with all other people in a society.

NO... I expect them to act, and do their JOBS, as "professionals." If they start "assigning blame" they might let the offender, who is still alive, sit in his car till he DIES!" Next thing you know, they'll let a "stupid" driver, who killed NO ONE ELSE, sit and die for his "idiocy." This is a level of service we can DO WITHOUT! When a "First Responder" breaks his oath of caring for the WOUNDED, without regard to responsibility, then it is time for them to RETIRE! If they can't "stomach" the duties of their job, they need to get OUT of it.

And again I say, this should be "irrelevant" to a First Responder, but then you weren't REALLY one of those, were you.... you just "rode along?" Oh, wait.... you were the tow truck ride along!

And by your first sentence, you show that you're just a "ride along" trucker, too! Another definition of "antisocial" is when one doesn't even care about those closest to him in family or "fraternity." MANY of them end up as mass killers! You're getting very CLOSE to fitting the description!

No waffling here. I SAID I had no respect for those who "intentionally" take another's life. But, I would have some pity for him, as something has definitely affected his "social behaviour." And I have pity for those poor lowly lot lizards who feel they have no other recourse in life. But, I suppose YOU would feel that they are "idiots" who deserved what they got!

II didn't SAY that! I said, that you MIGHT want to have a bit of respect for a fellow DRIVER who made a mistake, and killled NO ONE but himself! THIS line of response only proves my point that, as YOU said, you've seen too much to KNOW the difference!

As IF you could understand, I feel that one who INTENTIONALLY takes the life of another has "forfeited" his place in the SOCIAL society. Although, I still CARE for his immortal soul, I do NOT respect him as a member of society. Therefore, my conscience is CLEAR when he is put to death for his crimes. My "personal" criteria is not the issue, although I admit I am sometimes conflicted. This is completely different from the "anitsocial" behaviour YOU exhibit, by not caring about nor respecting an individual who dies because he made a bad choice! In fact, it is PROVEN, that MOST killers have exhibited "anti-social behaviour" to the extent that YOU are exhibiting. I'm not saying that YOU are capable of killing indiscriminately, but you ARE exhibiting the prerequisite tendencies!

I think I've made it CLEAR that they DO matter. I despair as much, if not more, than YOU when someone is killed for no reason. I CARE about the victims of senseless carnage. But, if an 18 year old, texting on her cellphone, kills 5 people including herself, I pity NOT ONLY the families of the 4 "innocents" but ALSO the family of the one who acted "stupidly." Likewise, I CARE about the man who died in this wreck, and his family, and since he killed NO ONE ELSE, I CARE about HIM, and I show some RESPECT for him in passing. We "drivers" know that we are ALWAYS just one slip up away from death. It could be OUR slip up, or someone ELSE'S... either way we are dead, and no one but our families OR another 'driver' will care! You're obviously NOT another "driver."

Ha HA!! What a joke! MOST accidents, even involving trucks, are caused by 4 wheelers who are acting STUPID! And YOU want to have MORE respect for THEM? THEY have little or NO respect for the laws, and even LESS for trucks! Are you saying that ALL of THEM are wearing their seatbelts? Or changing lanes appropriately? Or merging into traffic by the LAW? OR NOT talking on a cellphone?

How many of THEM are SITTING above 240 gallons of fuel? How many of THEM have someone cutting them off when they DON'T have the breaking power to compensate? How many of THEM signal their intention to exit the freeway from the correct lane? Or MERGE at the correct speed? You are "aligning" yourself with the biggest mass of stupidity known to MAN! (other than the Bush administration!) And RIGHTLY so! You are ONE of them! You're a 4wheeler!

You have shown your "true colors" and I feel I have "judged" you correctly. But, UNLIKE YOU, I will feel pity for you if you die in an automobile accident, regardless of how YOUR stupidity will probably have caused it. And I will NOT come on THIS board and make statements implying that you "deserved it" because you were STUPID!

I'm DONE with you for now! :roll:

I WAS done, but then I saw this last segment of your post. And I will answer you in ALL sincerity.

If he were from WAY out of state, it might be dificult for me to attend his funeral, but if local, a resounding YES!!

At the very LEAST, I would send them a letter. I would want to tell them that, as a trucker, I realize that some things are out of our control. I would HOPE that he wasn't being stupid, but, I would realize that "if he were" he would be little different from MANY on the roads today, both truckers and 4wheelers!

I would want them to know that, "THERE. but for the grace of God, go I!"

I would want them to know that I SHARE their LOSS. And that I KNOW they share MINE. I would want them to KNOW that I don't expect people to be PERFECT!

I would want them to know that I DON'T expect them to live out their lives in shame over something THEY had no control over.

Trucking is a dangerous business! That is why I have been so strongly against WIMPS getting into it!

But, if I lost my ability to CARE about others, because I'd seen too many corpses on the road, or in the battlefield, I would KNOW that it is time to "walk away" and regroup my senses. YOU, my friend, are at that crossroad. I hope you chose the right path.

 

Double post. I WOULD apologize, but it is not MY fault. I'm getting sick and tired of getting the message that says:

INVALID SESSION

WTF is an invalid session?? I'm logged in, so what gives? I'm getting TIRED of copying and previewing and submitting 5 times or more to get what I type "posted" here!

I've cleaned all my cookies, purged my history, and everything else! (In fact, I do it about 3 times a day!)

I'm quite SURE the problem is on CAD's end! I have NO SUCH PROBLEM on any other board I am posting on!

 

golfhobo,

Maybe it timed out since the reply was legnthy. I dunno, I am not a computerologist and still learning how to get around in CAD. I am going to try and type my replies in ms word or wordpad,then cut and paste them into the submit reply window. It might help. Just a suggestion.