Turning down truck speed
#141
05-05-2008, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Whammo
You obviously did not comprehend the thread. Nobody suggested you can "roar down the highway all day".
You also seem to be confused. First you insist there is "ZERO" effect, then you concede that a person will have to drive an extra 5-10 minutes. It is probably closer to 20-40 minutes of unpaid time, but even one second of lost time proves my point. It seems to me that is EXACTLY what you are doing? Just seems to me you would be spending 10 minutes less attempting to back into your stall at the nearest truck stop...or are you one of those that DRIVES in & attempts to BACK out? I can GUARANTEE you I put on MORE paid miles than you would EVER dream of! And in the type of country that would give the likes of YOU nightmares!
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#142
05-05-2008, 08:16 PM
Originally Posted by BigDiesel
Whammo has no idea how to use a logbook either, so most "points" of Whammos posts are laughable... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Go away troll tard.
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#143
05-05-2008, 08:21 PM
Originally Posted by wildkat
Originally Posted by Whammo
You obviously did not comprehend the thread. Nobody suggested you can "roar down the highway all day".
You also seem to be confused. First you insist there is "ZERO" effect, then you concede that a person will have to drive an extra 5-10 minutes. It is probably closer to 20-40 minutes of unpaid time, but even one second of lost time proves my point. It seems to me that is EXACTLY what you are doing?
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#144
05-05-2008, 08:53 PM
Originally Posted by Whammo
Originally Posted by BigDiesel
Whammo has no idea how to use a logbook either, so most "points" of Whammos posts are laughable... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Go away troll tard.
#145
05-05-2008, 08:57 PM
Originally Posted by Whammo
So your arguments did nothing to negate mine. You already conceded my only point, so I am done with you. If you did, did you really beleive I was serious?
#146
05-05-2008, 09:03 PM
Originally Posted by Island
Originally Posted by Whammo
Originally Posted by Windwalker
Originally Posted by Island
I'm a self confessed goober incapable of 5th grade math.
To my goober mind however 67mph man doing 3000 miles and 55mph man doing 3000mph = same pay for both.(The assumption is that both are getting the same cpm). But what do I know? I'm just a goober incapable of 5th grade math. Somebody please enlighten me as to how 55mph man is getting a pay cut compared to 67 mph man (remember they, like most otr drivers are paid by the mile). And please do it without further confusing this goober ,because I thought that the original complaint was about a cut in pay, but it seems to be morphing into less home time. My goober mind can only deal with one issue at a time,so are we still on pay cut resulting from a reduction in truck speed, or are we now talking about hometime? Please make my mind up for me 3000 mile trip at 55 mph... About 54.5 hours... 3000 mile trip at 65 mph... About 46 hours... Assuming you get unloaded and reloaded in a timely manner, that means you start your next run about 8 hours sooner. Same amount of money but 8 hours less time. So, you're getting paid by the mile, the more miles you can make in an hour, the more per hour you are makiing. So, by the end of the week, you may have 16 more hours of driving than the guy that's doing 55 mph. That's roughly about a thousand miles more, and about $350 more pay.... Give or take whatever you're making per mile. Having said that... I work off of appointment times. While some runs are "tight", others give me enough time to get an extra 4 to 6 hours of sleep. No matter what time I get there, they won't touch my load until my appointment time. If Dick drives 11 hours @ 55mph making 50cpm he takes home $302.50 If Jane drives 11 hours @ 65mph making 50cpm she takes home $357.50 I see your point and have to conclude that you are 100% correct. It is now 2:52 p.m. central time.I'm 4 hours away from the receiver with a delivery appt of 8:00 a.m. central tomorrow. I will start driving at 3:30 p.m. get there at around 7:30 p.m. ,drive around the nearby truckstop till 2:30 a.m. tomorrow to get my 11 hours of driving, unload at 8:00a.m. in the morning and after my 10 hour break will drive to pick up my next load. Now if my next load has a total of say 500 miles (dead head & loaded miles & I have 24 hours in which to make the delivery I will drive to the final destination in about 9 hours (average about 59 mph) and if i can stay at the receiver till my delivery appt. I'll drive around the yard for the remaining 2 hours to make time on line 3 of my log book 11 hours & then tell my company I won't accept payment for the dispatched miles but for the miles I drove for those 11 hours (including circling the customers yard for 2 hours). After My 10 hour break ,If dispatch doesn't have a load for my right away,no problem . I just hit the road and drive till my 11 hours are up or i'm sent a load. I & others were trying to make a point that in real life trucking situations the reduction in speed of a truck would have a negligible effect on miles driven when other factors that I stated earlier are taken into consideration. But I see your point and admit that you are perfectly right. Reducing the speed of a truck ,even from 68-62mph will have a great impact on the number of miles one can drive .For we all routinely have available loads, delivry/pickup appts ,more than 70 hours within a 8 day period, good weather, no construction or accidents ,no loads going through Illinois or other 55 mph areas, which allows us to be able to drive 11 hours consistently every day. This goober finally made the connection. Jane will always be able to drive 11 hours per day @ 65 mph @ 50 cpm and will always do better than Dick. I appreciate your clearing that up for me. By the way I get a fair number of drop & hooks at my company but know that there will always be live loads/unloads which takes away from my 14 hours, but next time I'll unhook from my trailer while it's backed up to the dock and bobtail about the place to get in my 11 hours of driving. And you can bet I'll be doing that at 65 mph to get as many miles as possible, & payroll better not give me any "we pay on Dispatched miles". One other thing ,I always thought the 11 hour rule was a limit to the number of hours one could drive.I wasn't aware that it was a target I was supposed to aim for every day.Silly me . Operations/Dispatch at my company needs a shake up. They need to keep me moving even when there is nothing to be moved so I can get my maximum time on line 3. I will also stop planning my trips with truck stops in mind. I will now just drive & wherever my 11 hours are up I'll just stop there.Next time i'm on I95 i wont stop for my break in New Jersey (or Connecticut if southbound) ,I'll just stop on the George Washington Bridge if that is where my 11 hours are up, because I MUST get my 11 hours. Read it again.
#147
05-05-2008, 09:08 PM
Originally Posted by Island
Originally Posted by Whammo
Originally Posted by BigDiesel
Whammo has no idea how to use a logbook either, so most "points" of Whammos posts are laughable... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Go away troll tard.
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#148
05-05-2008, 09:09 PM
Originally Posted by Island
Originally Posted by Whammo
Originally Posted by Island
Originally Posted by countryhorseman
Originally Posted by TomB985
Or....
You could turn that around and become an owner operator and pay for your fuel... Then you would make LOTS MORE at 55 than 65.... I'll be honest, I'm not surprised about all the attitudes I see out here...it's rampant in this industry. It's all about me and MY paycheck...to hell with everyone else! :? You have it exactly right! There is a big difference between Steering Wheel Jockeys and Professional Truck Drivers! Between the 2 large carriers I have driven for, and the smaller regional carrier I driver for, the reward for taking care of the equipment makes all the difference than having that extra 3, 4, 5 mph! It does not matter how fast your truck goes, the carrier is only going to give you so many miles a week anyhow! Unless you work for a small company that runs illegal! It is useless showing the Steering Wheel Jockeys facts and trying to teach them reality, they think someone is out to screw them! Yes, the big companies are trying to find ways to protect the bottom line, that is what they are doing in business anyhow! And when the Steering Wheel Jockey's fail to be team players, they have all rights to take the privileges away. If the company does not make a profit, guess what! The Steering Wheel Jockeys will be OUT OF A JOB! The founders of my company didn't have me in mind when they started. They had their investments & the highest possible returns they could get . Sounds uncaring? Mightbe. Are there companies out there (trucking or otherwise ) who put profits above people? You bet. But that aside, people who invest their money (which ultimately provide jobs even though that might not be their main goal) are going to want to make a profit. Thats called business. When I started with my present company early to mid 2007, deisel was just under $ 3 per gallon .Its now just over $4 with no immediate relief in sight. If the trucking companies think that slower trucks will result in lower operational costs ,then they will cut back the speeds on their trucks. If that is too much for me to tolerate, then I can buy my own truck. A simpler solution I can't think of. Can't afford a truck or the down payment for a truck ,or have bad credit? I'll stop by the nearest truck stop for a magazine .They are full of ads from companies who do lease purchase (I won't even bother to consider the merits or lack thereof of such schemes) & in no time I can go from being a slow 60 or 62 mph company driver to however fast the drive train on your truck allows me to go. I'm not saying one shouldn't be free express one's grouse & try to improve a situation, but bitching (for want of a better term) about certain things when there more practical things that one can do, even as an individual, to improve that situation, to me , is a waste of time. To those who are getting a pay cut due to slower trucks rebel against these companies . Get your own trucks. To those who don't anticipate a pay cut due to slower trucks please join me in praying that a 60 mph truck is the most serious gripe we will have with whatever company we work for.
#149
05-05-2008, 09:13 PM
Re: > You have got to be kidding me!
Originally Posted by Whammo
Originally Posted by bigtimba
Nine pages of debate? The same pay for more hours worked isn't a paycut?
Jeepers Creepers. Some Drivers are worse than I thought. Good luck to you.
#150
05-05-2008, 09:15 PM
Originally Posted by Island
Originally Posted by Island
Originally Posted by Whammo
Originally Posted by Windwalker
Originally Posted by Island
I'm a self confessed goober incapable of 5th grade math.
To my goober mind however 67mph man doing 3000 miles and 55mph man doing 3000mph = same pay for both.(The assumption is that both are getting the same cpm). But what do I know? I'm just a goober incapable of 5th grade math. Somebody please enlighten me as to how 55mph man is getting a pay cut compared to 67 mph man (remember they, like most otr drivers are paid by the mile). And please do it without further confusing this goober ,because I thought that the original complaint was about a cut in pay, but it seems to be morphing into less home time. My goober mind can only deal with one issue at a time,so are we still on pay cut resulting from a reduction in truck speed, or are we now talking about hometime? Please make my mind up for me 3000 mile trip at 55 mph... About 54.5 hours... 3000 mile trip at 65 mph... About 46 hours... Assuming you get unloaded and reloaded in a timely manner, that means you start your next run about 8 hours sooner. Same amount of money but 8 hours less time. So, you're getting paid by the mile, the more miles you can make in an hour, the more per hour you are makiing. So, by the end of the week, you may have 16 more hours of driving than the guy that's doing 55 mph. That's roughly about a thousand miles more, and about $350 more pay.... Give or take whatever you're making per mile. Having said that... I work off of appointment times. While some runs are "tight", others give me enough time to get an extra 4 to 6 hours of sleep. No matter what time I get there, they won't touch my load until my appointment time. If Dick drives 11 hours @ 55mph making 50cpm he takes home $302.50 If Jane drives 11 hours @ 65mph making 50cpm she takes home $357.50 I see your point and have to conclude that you are 100% correct. It is now 2:52 p.m. central time.I'm 4 hours away from the receiver with a delivery appt of 8:00 a.m. central tomorrow. I will start driving at 3:30 p.m. get there at around 7:30 p.m. ,drive around the nearby truckstop till 2:30 a.m. tomorrow to get my 11 hours of driving, unload at 8:00a.m. in the morning and after my 10 hour break will drive to pick up my next load. Now if my next load has a total of say 500 miles (dead head & loaded miles & I have 24 hours in which to make the delivery I will drive to the final destination in about 9 hours (average about 59 mph) and if i can stay at the receiver till my delivery appt. I'll drive around the yard for the remaining 2 hours to make time on line 3 of my log book 11 hours & then tell my company I won't accept payment for the dispatched miles but for the miles I drove for those 11 hours (including circling the customers yard for 2 hours). After My 10 hour break ,If dispatch doesn't have a load for my right away,no problem . I just hit the road and drive till my 11 hours are up or i'm sent a load. I & others were trying to make a point that in real life trucking situations the reduction in speed of a truck would have a negligible effect on miles driven when other factors that I stated earlier are taken into consideration. But I see your point and admit that you are perfectly right. Reducing the speed of a truck ,even from 68-62mph will have a great impact on the number of miles one can drive .For we all routinely have available loads, delivry/pickup appts ,more than 70 hours within a 8 day period, good weather, no construction or accidents ,no loads going through Illinois or other 55 mph areas, which allows us to be able to drive 11 hours consistently every day. This goober finally made the connection. Jane will always be able to drive 11 hours per day @ 65 mph @ 50 cpm and will always do better than Dick. I appreciate your clearing that up for me. By the way I get a fair number of drop & hooks at my company but know that there will always be live loads/unloads which takes away from my 14 hours, but next time I'll unhook from my trailer while it's backed up to the dock and bobtail about the place to get in my 11 hours of driving. And you can bet I'll be doing that at 65 mph to get as many miles as possible, & payroll better not give me any "we pay on Dispatched miles". One other thing ,I always thought the 11 hour rule was a limit to the number of hours one could drive.I wasn't aware that it was a target I was supposed to aim for every day.Silly me . Operations/Dispatch at my company needs a shake up. They need to keep me moving even when there is nothing to be moved so I can get my maximum time on line 3. I will also stop planning my trips with truck stops in mind. I will now just drive & wherever my 11 hours are up I'll just stop there.Next time i'm on I95 i wont stop for my break in New Jersey (or Connecticut if southbound) ,I'll just stop on the George Washington Bridge if that is where my 11 hours are up, because I MUST get my 11 hours. Read it again.
Originally Posted by Island
I have already conceded to you that slowing down trucks will cost you (not me) money.That is behind us .At least it is behind me.
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