Turning down truck speed
#151
05-05-2008, 09:50 PM
Originally Posted by Whammo
Originally Posted by countryhorseman
Originally Posted by Whammo
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Don't be silly, they're not gonna cut driver counts unless they don't have the freight. As far as dispatchers, nobody is forcing them to work there. :roll: Evertrucker is a perfect example of how you can hustle and Tcall to deliver early and make more money. The faster you deliver the faster you can get that next load. Some places wont take you early. Load I delivered this morning had another of my company's trucks there. My appt was 0800 (central) ,the other driver's appt was 1100 (central). They wouldn't take him early. Even if he hustled as you put it & got there even earlier than he did what good would it have done him? he now has to sit till his appt time + unload time which will now eat up his 14 hours & prevent him from driving 11 hours,whether at 60 or65 or 68 mph. " The faster you deliver the faster you can get that next load " is good only if there is another load immediately available . Also ,the next load you are offered might not pick up till tomorrow . The next load might have more time than you need & if it is a forced dispatch company you are obliged to take it.If the company is not forced dispatched,you turn it down hoping for something more productive ,but then you might have to wait several hours for a load you find more suitable. Allthese will have a greater impact on the miles you can drive than a difference of 5mph. The point is not that speed reduction won't impact miles. The point is that, in the whole scheme of things the impact will be insignificant ,& that other factors will play a greater role in determining miles.This is the argument being put forward. Go through the previous 10 pages of & show where this has not been the argument. 
#152
05-05-2008, 09:53 PM
Originally Posted by Whammo
Originally Posted by Island
Originally Posted by Island
Originally Posted by Whammo
Originally Posted by Windwalker
Originally Posted by Island
I'm a self confessed goober incapable of 5th grade math.
To my goober mind however 67mph man doing 3000 miles and 55mph man doing 3000mph = same pay for both.(The assumption is that both are getting the same cpm). But what do I know? I'm just a goober incapable of 5th grade math. Somebody please enlighten me as to how 55mph man is getting a pay cut compared to 67 mph man (remember they, like most otr drivers are paid by the mile). And please do it without further confusing this goober ,because I thought that the original complaint was about a cut in pay, but it seems to be morphing into less home time. My goober mind can only deal with one issue at a time,so are we still on pay cut resulting from a reduction in truck speed, or are we now talking about hometime? Please make my mind up for me 3000 mile trip at 55 mph... About 54.5 hours... 3000 mile trip at 65 mph... About 46 hours... Assuming you get unloaded and reloaded in a timely manner, that means you start your next run about 8 hours sooner. Same amount of money but 8 hours less time. So, you're getting paid by the mile, the more miles you can make in an hour, the more per hour you are makiing. So, by the end of the week, you may have 16 more hours of driving than the guy that's doing 55 mph. That's roughly about a thousand miles more, and about $350 more pay.... Give or take whatever you're making per mile. Having said that... I work off of appointment times. While some runs are "tight", others give me enough time to get an extra 4 to 6 hours of sleep. No matter what time I get there, they won't touch my load until my appointment time. If Dick drives 11 hours @ 55mph making 50cpm he takes home $302.50 If Jane drives 11 hours @ 65mph making 50cpm she takes home $357.50 I see your point and have to conclude that you are 100% correct. It is now 2:52 p.m. central time.I'm 4 hours away from the receiver with a delivery appt of 8:00 a.m. central tomorrow. I will start driving at 3:30 p.m. get there at around 7:30 p.m. ,drive around the nearby truckstop till 2:30 a.m. tomorrow to get my 11 hours of driving, unload at 8:00a.m. in the morning and after my 10 hour break will drive to pick up my next load. Now if my next load has a total of say 500 miles (dead head & loaded miles & I have 24 hours in which to make the delivery I will drive to the final destination in about 9 hours (average about 59 mph) and if i can stay at the receiver till my delivery appt. I'll drive around the yard for the remaining 2 hours to make time on line 3 of my log book 11 hours & then tell my company I won't accept payment for the dispatched miles but for the miles I drove for those 11 hours (including circling the customers yard for 2 hours). After My 10 hour break ,If dispatch doesn't have a load for my right away,no problem . I just hit the road and drive till my 11 hours are up or i'm sent a load. I & others were trying to make a point that in real life trucking situations the reduction in speed of a truck would have a negligible effect on miles driven when other factors that I stated earlier are taken into consideration. But I see your point and admit that you are perfectly right. Reducing the speed of a truck ,even from 68-62mph will have a great impact on the number of miles one can drive .For we all routinely have available loads, delivry/pickup appts ,more than 70 hours within a 8 day period, good weather, no construction or accidents ,no loads going through Illinois or other 55 mph areas, which allows us to be able to drive 11 hours consistently every day. This goober finally made the connection. Jane will always be able to drive 11 hours per day @ 65 mph @ 50 cpm and will always do better than Dick. I appreciate your clearing that up for me. By the way I get a fair number of drop & hooks at my company but know that there will always be live loads/unloads which takes away from my 14 hours, but next time I'll unhook from my trailer while it's backed up to the dock and bobtail about the place to get in my 11 hours of driving. And you can bet I'll be doing that at 65 mph to get as many miles as possible, & payroll better not give me any "we pay on Dispatched miles". One other thing ,I always thought the 11 hour rule was a limit to the number of hours one could drive.I wasn't aware that it was a target I was supposed to aim for every day.Silly me . Operations/Dispatch at my company needs a shake up. They need to keep me moving even when there is nothing to be moved so I can get my maximum time on line 3. I will also stop planning my trips with truck stops in mind. I will now just drive & wherever my 11 hours are up I'll just stop there.Next time i'm on I95 i wont stop for my break in New Jersey (or Connecticut if southbound) ,I'll just stop on the George Washington Bridge if that is where my 11 hours are up, because I MUST get my 11 hours. Read it again.
Originally Posted by Island
I have already conceded to you that slowing down trucks will cost you (not me) money.That is behind us .At least it is behind me.
#153
05-05-2008, 09:55 PM
Originally Posted by Whammo
Originally Posted by Island
Originally Posted by Whammo
Originally Posted by BigDiesel
Whammo has no idea how to use a logbook either, so most "points" of Whammos posts are laughable... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Go away troll tard.
#154
05-05-2008, 10:03 PM
Originally Posted by Whammo
Originally Posted by Island
Originally Posted by Island
Originally Posted by Whammo
Originally Posted by Windwalker
Originally Posted by Island
I'm a self confessed goober incapable of 5th grade math.
To my goober mind however 67mph man doing 3000 miles and 55mph man doing 3000mph = same pay for both.(The assumption is that both are getting the same cpm). But what do I know? I'm just a goober incapable of 5th grade math. Somebody please enlighten me as to how 55mph man is getting a pay cut compared to 67 mph man (remember they, like most otr drivers are paid by the mile). And please do it without further confusing this goober ,because I thought that the original complaint was about a cut in pay, but it seems to be morphing into less home time. My goober mind can only deal with one issue at a time,so are we still on pay cut resulting from a reduction in truck speed, or are we now talking about hometime? Please make my mind up for me 3000 mile trip at 55 mph... About 54.5 hours... 3000 mile trip at 65 mph... About 46 hours... Assuming you get unloaded and reloaded in a timely manner, that means you start your next run about 8 hours sooner. Same amount of money but 8 hours less time. So, you're getting paid by the mile, the more miles you can make in an hour, the more per hour you are makiing. So, by the end of the week, you may have 16 more hours of driving than the guy that's doing 55 mph. That's roughly about a thousand miles more, and about $350 more pay.... Give or take whatever you're making per mile. Having said that... I work off of appointment times. While some runs are "tight", others give me enough time to get an extra 4 to 6 hours of sleep. No matter what time I get there, they won't touch my load until my appointment time. If Dick drives 11 hours @ 55mph making 50cpm he takes home $302.50 If Jane drives 11 hours @ 65mph making 50cpm she takes home $357.50 I see your point and have to conclude that you are 100% correct. It is now 2:52 p.m. central time.I'm 4 hours away from the receiver with a delivery appt of 8:00 a.m. central tomorrow. I will start driving at 3:30 p.m. get there at around 7:30 p.m. ,drive around the nearby truckstop till 2:30 a.m. tomorrow to get my 11 hours of driving, unload at 8:00a.m. in the morning and after my 10 hour break will drive to pick up my next load. Now if my next load has a total of say 500 miles (dead head & loaded miles & I have 24 hours in which to make the delivery I will drive to the final destination in about 9 hours (average about 59 mph) and if i can stay at the receiver till my delivery appt. I'll drive around the yard for the remaining 2 hours to make time on line 3 of my log book 11 hours & then tell my company I won't accept payment for the dispatched miles but for the miles I drove for those 11 hours (including circling the customers yard for 2 hours). After My 10 hour break ,If dispatch doesn't have a load for my right away,no problem . I just hit the road and drive till my 11 hours are up or i'm sent a load. I & others were trying to make a point that in real life trucking situations the reduction in speed of a truck would have a negligible effect on miles driven when other factors that I stated earlier are taken into consideration. But I see your point and admit that you are perfectly right. Reducing the speed of a truck ,even from 68-62mph will have a great impact on the number of miles one can drive .For we all routinely have available loads, delivry/pickup appts ,more than 70 hours within a 8 day period, good weather, no construction or accidents ,no loads going through Illinois or other 55 mph areas, which allows us to be able to drive 11 hours consistently every day. This goober finally made the connection. Jane will always be able to drive 11 hours per day @ 65 mph @ 50 cpm and will always do better than Dick. I appreciate your clearing that up for me. By the way I get a fair number of drop & hooks at my company but know that there will always be live loads/unloads which takes away from my 14 hours, but next time I'll unhook from my trailer while it's backed up to the dock and bobtail about the place to get in my 11 hours of driving. And you can bet I'll be doing that at 65 mph to get as many miles as possible, & payroll better not give me any "we pay on Dispatched miles". One other thing ,I always thought the 11 hour rule was a limit to the number of hours one could drive.I wasn't aware that it was a target I was supposed to aim for every day.Silly me . Operations/Dispatch at my company needs a shake up. They need to keep me moving even when there is nothing to be moved so I can get my maximum time on line 3. I will also stop planning my trips with truck stops in mind. I will now just drive & wherever my 11 hours are up I'll just stop there.Next time i'm on I95 i wont stop for my break in New Jersey (or Connecticut if southbound) ,I'll just stop on the George Washington Bridge if that is where my 11 hours are up, because I MUST get my 11 hours. Read it again.
Originally Posted by Island
I have already conceded to you that slowing down trucks will cost you (not me) money.That is behind us .At least it is behind me.
You seem also to not have read my request for you to explain how telling a driver to quit a company or get his own truck is similar to a battered woman because you have yet to respond
#155
05-05-2008, 10:07 PM
Originally Posted by Whammo
Originally Posted by Island
Originally Posted by Whammo
Originally Posted by BigDiesel
Whammo has no idea how to use a logbook either, so most "points" of Whammos posts are laughable... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Go away troll tard.
#157
05-05-2008, 10:24 PM
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Wildkat leaves this sandbox, as it is entirely obvious that some posters must have come from Mars or some such place as they just haven't a clue about the real world of trucking & insist on idiotic examples that cannot possibly be acheived... The biggest amount of :dung: :dung: :dung: I have ever seen :evil: :evil:
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#158
05-05-2008, 11:50 PM
Originally Posted by wildkat
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Wildkat leaves this sandbox, as it is entirely obvious that some posters must have come from Mars or some such place as they just haven't a clue about the real world of trucking & insist on idiotic examples that cannot possibly be acheived... The biggest amount of :dung: :dung: :dung: I have ever seen :evil: :evil: And it's "i" before "e" except after "c".
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#159
05-05-2008, 11:53 PM
Originally Posted by Island
Originally Posted by Whammo
I see now that you have some type of brain damage and cannot even remember your own posts so this conversation is over.
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#160
05-06-2008, 12:01 AM
Originally Posted by Whammo
Originally Posted by wildkat
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Wildkat leaves this sandbox, as it is entirely obvious that some posters must have come from Mars or some such place as they just haven't a clue about the real world of trucking & insist on idiotic examples that cannot possibly be acheived... The biggest amount of :dung: :dung: :dung: I have ever seen :evil: :evil: And it's "i" before "e" except after "c". |
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