Turning down truck speed
#211
05-11-2008, 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Double L
But we all know doing 55 mph and higher pay won't happen!
It will if driver trainers quit training new drivers.
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#212
05-11-2008, 03:18 AM
Evinrude said:
Man that is good stuff..not . You are saying I should welcome a roll back and I should want to give more? and if the companies want more I should give more?. Hey opeg is glad your OK with the slower speed so now they will increase the cost of fuel some more.
Man I cant understand why u don't want to get more money...... think of Enron (the most profitable company in the world... they sell diesel) they don't care about nothing else other than profit, and your OK with giving them more. And your arguments regarding OPEC and ENRON are counter to the point you are trying to make! :roll: :lol: :lol:
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#214
05-11-2008, 04:01 AM
Originally Posted by Double L
If drivers quit training new drivers then how are they suppose to get the experience they need and wouldn't that cause an even more demand for truckers?
--Dave.
#216
05-11-2008, 05:52 AM
Originally Posted by Evinrude
Originally Posted by golfhobo
evinrude wrote :
to me going slower means the following:
1 instead of hot meal i get leftovers. 2. come home to bang my wife, she is sleeping. 3. less time before I got to back to work. 4. getting passed by oj simpson in a white bronco. 5 less home time Out and back overnighter? Maybe, 600 miles max each way? 5 mph at MAX SPEED would only be 45 mins, but more likely no more than 20 mins difference. Again, I doubt you would miss a hot meal unless it's way past dinner time anyway. As for "banging your wife," with an attitude like that, she's probably pretending to be asleep anyway! Big time OTR driver? Out 3 weeks? I'd say the same number of loads and miles (therefore same payCHECK,) and let's see..... on that LAST load of say 400 miles to get you home, your buddy's truck which wasn't turned down gets to the consignee near your home (assuming identical loads) maybe 15 mins ahead of you. And to the dock ahead of you. But, his unloader is lazy and it takes him 30 mins longer to get unloaded.... so, guess what??? YOU beat him home! Now your dinner is hotter than his..... but your wife is still P.O'd and you get nothing else! :lol: Again, this is all based on the NEGLIGIBLE reduction of say 2 or 3 mph that this thread was based on.... not a whopping 10 or 15 mph reduction! Trust me, any trucker who's ever done a logbook understands the formula for speed. And we ALL "understand" the various scenarios that were given to prove "on paper" a minimal cut in our equivalent HOURLY payrate. But, several very experienced drivers here have given you their PERSONAL testimony as to why it doesn't always work out that way, and why it'll probably have NO effect on your weekly miles or paycheck. If you want to continue to cry over a few extra minutes here and there, just wait til you have to face the REAL life of a trucker! Better yet.... start practicing your Mickey D's welcome smile! :roll: Man that is good stuff..not . You are saying I should welcome a roll back and I should want to give more? and if the companies want more I should give more?. Hey opeg is glad your OK with the slower speed so now they will increase the cost of fuel some more. Man I cant understand why u don't want to get more money...... think of Enron (the most profitable company in the world... they sell diesel) they don't care about nothing else other than profit, and your OK with giving them more. What was there profit the last 3 months 250 billion? Man we just don't want to backwards and the world laughs at us truckers. The question nobody seems to be asking is what is the company losing on this deal? Nothing? It is the drivers nuts that are slowly getting the squeeze, isn't it?
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#217
05-11-2008, 06:04 AM
Originally Posted by golfhobo
Whammo:
You seem to think the evil companies are trying to reduce your earning potential. Why would they DO that? For each run YOU make, THEY make a profit. Each mile YOU drive, pays a percentage of their monthly payments on their trucks and OTHER OVERHEAD. Trust me.... at the point where a reduction in TOP speed of a truck lessens it's earning potential (and thereby yours) it becomes economic suicide for them to continue. If a MINOR reduction will save them money in fuel, they will do it ONLY as long as they can continue to get the maximum number of loaded miles out of that truck per week. If that happens to take a FEW more hours of your time.... WITHOUT reducing your loaded production for them.... well, that's what you signed on to do! Yes, a fuel bonus would be nice.... and who knows that all these companies that have been mentioned WON'T start paying one!? With your attitude about the trucking industry, and the drivers particularly, I suggest you find another line of work. I don't think you'll be happy here. I don't think you've got what it takes.... to "git 'er done!" If that were so, why didn't they do it before? And at what point does someone start to lose on the deal? Your position is indefensible. You really need to rethink it. Every speed rollback has and will continue to have some consequences. The impact will vary depending on how someone drives, but it will be there.
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#218
05-11-2008, 08:37 AM
Originally Posted by Whammo
Originally Posted by Evinrude
Originally Posted by golfhobo
evinrude wrote :
to me going slower means the following:
1 instead of hot meal i get leftovers. 2. come home to bang my wife, she is sleeping. 3. less time before I got to back to work. 4. getting passed by oj simpson in a white bronco. 5 less home time Out and back overnighter? Maybe, 600 miles max each way? 5 mph at MAX SPEED would only be 45 mins, but more likely no more than 20 mins difference. Again, I doubt you would miss a hot meal unless it's way past dinner time anyway. As for "banging your wife," with an attitude like that, she's probably pretending to be asleep anyway! Big time OTR driver? Out 3 weeks? I'd say the same number of loads and miles (therefore same payCHECK,) and let's see..... on that LAST load of say 400 miles to get you home, your buddy's truck which wasn't turned down gets to the consignee near your home (assuming identical loads) maybe 15 mins ahead of you. And to the dock ahead of you. But, his unloader is lazy and it takes him 30 mins longer to get unloaded.... so, guess what??? YOU beat him home! Now your dinner is hotter than his..... but your wife is still P.O'd and you get nothing else! :lol: Again, this is all based on the NEGLIGIBLE reduction of say 2 or 3 mph that this thread was based on.... not a whopping 10 or 15 mph reduction! Trust me, any trucker who's ever done a logbook understands the formula for speed. And we ALL "understand" the various scenarios that were given to prove "on paper" a minimal cut in our equivalent HOURLY payrate. But, several very experienced drivers here have given you their PERSONAL testimony as to why it doesn't always work out that way, and why it'll probably have NO effect on your weekly miles or paycheck. If you want to continue to cry over a few extra minutes here and there, just wait til you have to face the REAL life of a trucker! Better yet.... start practicing your Mickey D's welcome smile! :roll: Man that is good stuff..not . You are saying I should welcome a roll back and I should want to give more? and if the companies want more I should give more?. Hey opeg is glad your OK with the slower speed so now they will increase the cost of fuel some more. Man I cant understand why u don't want to get more money...... think of Enron (the most profitable company in the world... they sell diesel) they don't care about nothing else other than profit, and your OK with giving them more. What was there profit the last 3 months 250 billion? Man we just don't want to backwards and the world laughs at us truckers. The question nobody seems to be asking is what is the company losing on this deal? Nothing? It is the drivers nuts that are slowly getting the squeeze, isn't it? I don't know if lucky is the word I would use,but I'm glad I have a job ,driving or otherwise. The company isn't losing anything on this deal , which, for us who actually work for a company,is a good thing Why would you want the compamy to lose anything?. I ,along with countless other drivers , am also not losing anything with a roll back in truck speed by a few mph (My truck speed actually remains the same). All your calculations & examples you have put on paper ,which you yourself have described as being idiotic, have been countered by real examples by people who actually do this thing daily ,yet you still persist in claiming that drivers are being affected and drivers are losing, and that "drivers nuts are getting squeezed" . With your "them vs us" mentality with respect to trucking companies & drivers, & also your impression of truck driving being the ideal occupation for some of the "sad bunch" as you said earlier, Why are you interested in it as a career choice? What does that say about you, who seem to enjoy judging other people's intelligence ( goober, thick skulls : remeber using those words)?
#220
05-11-2008, 12:59 PM
The fact of the matter is, if a company really wants to save fuel (which is obviously a good thing for them) and they really care about their drivers they should have a fuel economy bonus.
There are companies that do this already. With the fuel economy bonus if you average under x mpg you get an bonus x cpm for the month/quarter. Even a battered wife gets a toaster for Christmas once in a while.
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