Turning down truck speed
#221
05-11-2008, 01:01 PM
Originally Posted by Whammo
Originally Posted by golfhobo
Whammo:
You seem to think the evil companies are trying to reduce your earning potential. Why would they DO that? For each run YOU make, THEY make a profit. Each mile YOU drive, pays a percentage of their monthly payments on their trucks and OTHER OVERHEAD. Trust me.... at the point where a reduction in TOP speed of a truck lessens it's earning potential (and thereby yours) it becomes economic suicide for them to continue. If a MINOR reduction will save them money in fuel, they will do it ONLY as long as they can continue to get the maximum number of loaded miles out of that truck per week. If that happens to take a FEW more hours of your time.... WITHOUT reducing your loaded production for them.... well, that's what you signed on to do! Yes, a fuel bonus would be nice.... and who knows that all these companies that have been mentioned WON'T start paying one!? With your attitude about the trucking industry, and the drivers particularly, I suggest you find another line of work. I don't think you'll be happy here. I don't think you've got what it takes.... to "git 'er done!" If that were so, why didn't they do it before? And at what point does someone start to lose on the deal? Your position is indefensible. You really need to rethink it. Every speed rollback has and will continue to have some consequences. The impact will vary depending on how someone drives, but it will be there. As to why cutting speeds was not done before, might be it is because it is NOW that the companies are feeling the pinch. I wonder what your reaction would have been had companies cut speeds when gas prices were not increasing. The position has always been that reduction in speeds by a few mph will have an almost unnoticeable impact on drivers miles & paychecks,not that there will be no consequence. You seem to keep missing or avoiding that point. There will be an insignificant impact on drivers' miles & paychecks. What is indefensible about that position? That position has been put forward using actual & hypothetical real world situations, not ideal,perfect world mathematical equations . 
#222
05-11-2008, 01:08 PM
Originally Posted by Whammo
The fact of the matter is, if a company really wants to save fuel (which is obviously a good thing for them) and they really care about their drivers they should have a fuel economy bonus.
There are companies that do this already. With the fuel economy bonus if you average under x mpg you get an bonus x cpm for the month/quarter. Even a battered wife gets a toaster for Christmas once in a while.
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05-11-2008, 01:42 PM
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05-11-2008, 01:53 PM
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I started with my present company in summer of last year when the price of deisel was around $3. It is now around $4 per gallon.Of course people are losing. Companies are makining less & if it goes on for long enough then workers (drivers,dispatch etc.) will stand to lose . Please show where anyone suggested that "everyone is winning". I'd rather "lose" with a truck that is a few mph slower if it helps the company who issues my paycheck stay profitable than to "win" with a faster truck if it is likely to take my employer closer to shutting down.
So you are saying you don't mind to give some of your pay back to the company to help survive. Fuel could be $200 a barrel in just 2 years the cost of living will be through the roof and are your willing to give some more cut backs? My self I would rather see an huge increase of pay for the drivers. And how can it be done. Just the way Enron does it. Pass the inceased cost of doing bussiness to its costumers. Do you think Enron employees are talking a pay cut? [/quote]
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05-11-2008, 01:59 PM
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[quote="island"]I started with my present company in summer of last year when the price of deisel was around $3. It is now around $4 per gallon.Of course people are losing. Companies are makining less & if it goes on for long enough then workers (drivers,dispatch etc.) will stand to lose . Please show where anyone suggested that "everyone is winning". I'd rather "lose" with a truck that is a few mph slower if it helps the company who issues my paycheck stay profitable than to "win" with a faster truck if it is likely to take my employer closer to shutting down.
So you are saying you don't mind to give some of your pay back to the company to help survive. Fuel could be $200 a barrel in just 2 years the cost of living will be through the roof and are your willing to give some more cut backs? My self I would rather see an huge increase of pay for the drivers. And how can it be done? Just the way Enron does it. Pass the inceased cost of doing bussiness to its costumers. Do you think Enron employees are talking a pay cut?
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#226
05-11-2008, 02:18 PM
[quote="Evinrude"]
Originally Posted by island
I started with my present company in summer of last year when the price of deisel was around $3. It is now around $4 per gallon.Of course people are losing. Companies are makining less & if it goes on for long enough then workers (drivers,dispatch etc.) will stand to lose . Please show where anyone suggested that "everyone is winning". I'd rather "lose" with a truck that is a few mph slower if it helps the company who issues my paycheck stay profitable than to "win" with a faster truck if it is likely to take my employer closer to shutting down.
So you are saying you don't mind to give some of your pay back to the company to help survive. Fuel could be $200 a barrel in just 2 years the cost of living will be through the roof and are your willing to give some more cut backs? My self I would rather see an huge increase of pay for the drivers. And how can it be done? Just the way Enron does it. Pass the inceased cost of doing bussiness to its costumers. Do you think Enron employees are talking a pay cut? I have not received a paycut,a reduction in miles or expect any significant fall in either if my truck's speed is cut by a few mph. I don't know how to make that any clearer. There is a distinction to be made between a "cutback" in speed & in pay. If it means saving a job ,yes I am willing to make sacrifices. I dont care for injections,but I would rather have one if it means not having to deal with some sickness or pain. If that somehow makes me lesser of a person,so be it.My concern is for me,not for my company,but experience has shown me that I often have to look beyond what is immediately in front of me & take a lesser inconvenience now,instead of a greater one later. But thats just me
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05-11-2008, 02:26 PM
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[quote="Island"][quote="Evinrude"][quote="island"]I started with my present company in summer of last year when the price of deisel was around $3. It is now around $4 per gallon.Of course people are losing. Companies are makining less & if it goes on for long enough then workers (drivers,dispatch etc.) will stand to lose . Please show where anyone suggested that "everyone is winning". I'd rather "lose" with a truck that is a few mph slower if it helps the company who issues my paycheck stay profitable than to "win" with a faster truck if it is likely to take my employer closer to shutting down.
So you are saying you don't mind to give some of your pay back to the company to help survive. Fuel could be $200 a barrel in just 2 years the cost of living will be through the roof and are your willing to give some more cut backs? My self I would rather see an huge increase of pay for the drivers. And how can it be done? Just the way Enron does it. Pass the inceased cost of doing bussiness to its costumers. Do you think Enron employees are talking a pay cut? I have not received a paycut,a reduction in miles or expect any significant fall in either if my truck's speed is cut by a few mph. I don't know how to make that any clearer.
There is a distinction to be made between a "cutback" in speed & in pay.
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#228
05-11-2008, 02:51 PM
Like I've said - I haven't seen a reduction in my pay because of losing 5mph. However, I have seen over 100 drivers between 2 local companies lose their jobs because the companies couldn't afford the fuel cost. Both of these companies ran their trucks ungoverned. So, I'd say I'm pretty happy to still have the same paycheck coming in rather than no paycheck at all.
That's where you'll receive a reduction in pay - when they lock their doors.
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05-11-2008, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Malaki86
Like I've said - I haven't seen a reduction in my pay because of losing 5mph. However, I have seen over 100 drivers between 2 local companies lose their jobs because the companies couldn't afford the fuel cost. Both of these companies ran their trucks ungoverned. So, I'd say I'm pretty happy to still have the same paycheck coming in rather than no paycheck at all.
That's where you'll receive a reduction in pay - when they lock their doors. More freight for us to move and at a higher rate. Business is gruel, but thats business. Dont be scared to ask for a raise,your cost of leaving is going up as well.
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05-11-2008, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Malaki86
Like I've said - I haven't seen a reduction in my pay because of losing 5mph. However, I have seen over 100 drivers between 2 local companies lose their jobs because the companies couldn't afford the fuel cost. Both of these companies ran their trucks ungoverned. So, I'd say I'm pretty happy to still have the same paycheck coming in rather than no paycheck at all.
That's where you'll receive a reduction in pay - when they lock their doors. Your pay is the same it just takes you longer to make it. Your time should be worth something. If not, it make your life worthless.lol
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