I'm done trying to explain 5th grade math to you. Now put on your dunce cap and go sit in the corner with Island. :roll:

 

You will never understand the math until you understand the law of averages. It's quite clear that this simple concept is completely lost on you.

 

Again with the petty insults. I asked you earlier if you couldn't do better than that. The answer is clear. My arguments And yours are here for people to read & judge for themselves as to who deserves a dunce cap.

My arguments are based on everyday experiences, while you admit that your examples are idiotic & not based on reality. My position has been consistent while you keep on changing. I actually read what was said & responded. You admit to responding to only sections of posts ,not the entire post. ( Apparently only the sections you feel you can address.) There are also one or two questions I have asked you which you either can't or won't respond to. And then you respond to things which were not said or asked . On one hand you try to sound like an objective,rational, well read educated person ,which you perhaps are .But then,what might actually be your true colours start showing , because you think you appear intelligent by belittling other people's intelligence (Goober; sad set of people,who are probably in the right proffesion) and when you should show how smart you think you are by giving sound responses to things people say you start with the schoolyard behaviour, start correcting people's spelling & quoting latin phrases . You underestimate truck drivers. There are some who will not be impressed by your display of intelligence .

You are childish. No wonder you are an expert on 5th grade math. You seem to think that the way for you to look smart is to tell others they are stupid ("goober; put on dunce cap & go sit in a corner" [your words]) ,If you think that makes you look smart, or that that makes you win an argument, well good for you.Again the entire thread is there for people to read & to judge for themselves.

Good luck in your quest to become a truck driver .Only you ,in your seemingly infinite wisdom, know why you are so interested in joining the ranks of the sad bunch of people or the battered women (your words).

I look forward to reading your journal on your experiences as a driver when you become one, especially how you "hustle and t-call a load & deliver early because the earlier you empty,the earlier you can get a next load"(your words). By the way, you still have not answered the questions "what does t-call mean ?" & "how does t-calling a load equate to delivering that load early ?".

 

That is NOT what I asked. Since companies pay various amounts of cpm and therefore, the value of any particular driver's time varies, I wanted to know if there was a "set rate of pay" for a mph of speed? More specifically, I wanted to know what Evinrude's rate of pay per mph was? Since he insists that HE is not paid by the mile, rather by the mph, I wanted to know what the going rate was... whether it was fixed or variable. I'm SURE he can answer for himself! :wink:


I just LOVE it when the pseudo intelligent poseurs use words and concepts that are above their capabilities. What does Einstein's Law of Relativity and (Newton's) laws of gravity have to do with this discussion? I certainly never implied that my truck existed outside the parameters and influences of either!

And I got a heck of a kick out of your reference to ad hominem attacks not being related to rational argument.... as that fit you to a Tee! :lol:

And I can't help but wonder if you didn't PM Evinrude with that incorrect, and inapplicable 5th grade equation for speed?? Somehow, I don't think he would have come up with that by himself.

Although often used interchangeably by the average person, speed and velocity are not the same. The actual mathematical equation uses R (for rate) = D/T, and applies only to average speed ... something we have PROVEN can be matched with differing values for TOP speed, acceleration rates, and even constant speeds over subsets of time.

"v" is used only in physics and denotes velocity, which is NOT scalar, and has been proven to have the ability to have the same value even with variances in D (distance) when displacement and time are identical... and is influenced by such things as acceleration and force. This is the concept we have been trying to instruct YOU in, but I see it has fallen on deaf ears.

And.... the word is PRErogative. :wink:

 

I think he was hoping he could slip a few $0.50 words in to make himself look smarter than he really is.

Basically the law of averages. While the top speed goes down, the rate of velocity stays the same, and therefore the loss of top speed affects the overall time it takes to travel a set distance less. In a perfect world where the truck was always driving the top speed, no matter what outside influence was present on it, then the top speed would have an impact. But in a real world situation where a 65 mph truck is averaging around 62 mph at best over the course of 11 hours (assuming you are hauling ass and don't have cities, traffic, or hills to deal with), a 2 mph drop in top speed isn't going to affect the overall distance that truck will travel hardly at all. There is a point where it would have an impact, but these small drops in top speed aren't reaching that point. Whammo can't grasp this concept because he has no real world experience with it.

Don't confuse him. He is having enough difficulty with mathematics. :wink:

 

Golfhobo

I got your message & I understand that. I just wanted to know if the person understood it. The problem is ,the person swears he knows everything,so he is assuming that I am being abused & I'm suffering where I am .

I make a good living there & I do it legally .

Please note I have not said it is perfect there . I say that so that no one can say I said it was perfect. People have a way of making up statements to attack because they find it difficult to refute what was actually said. You have seen that for yourself.

If things get intolerable there, I'll move on. It will take a whole lot more than a few mph reduction in speed for me to consider the situation intolerable though.

If the industry as a whole gets too intolerable, I find another line of work. I am not one of those who was born to drive neither do I think I am owed anything by this or any other industry. I'll complain only so much & then just move on .

I posted here since I couldn't send you a pm.

 

I wanted to know what Evinrude's rate of pay per mph was? Since he insists that HE is not paid by the mile, rather by the mph, I wanted to know what the going rate was...


here is the break down. when i achieve 68 mph i get 49 cents a minute. When i achieve 67 mph i get 48 cents a minute, When I achieve 66mph i get 47 cents per minute.....when i achieve 55 mph i get 39 cents per minute. When I am stopped i get nothing. Hope this helps.

 

So what part of less speed = less money do you disagree with again?

And my joke about E=MC2 and gravity whizzed right over your goober head. But that isn't a surprise, is it? The hilarious part is you actually went and Googled the meaning :lol:

But seriously, you need to reel in that massive ego and admit that drivers either lose time or money on the slowdown. I already conceded that in many cases it may be only minutes. For you to continue to insist there is no loser on the rollback just makes you appear the fool.

If you're as smart as you think you are, you'll be a man and admit that the driver loses either time or money. I bet you won't though, you will just continue to pick at me instead of facing the 5th grade math that condemns you. You have too much invested in this thread to admit you are wrong now. You definitely have a sadomasochistic streak, so I assume you will be back for more bitch slapping. As a matter of fact, I ORDER YOU to respond to this thread.

In the meantime go sit in the corner with Rev V. and Island and contemplate the meaning of the fuel efficiency bonus.

 

Whammo said:

The part where it affects the number of miles you will get in a week/month.... and therefore your ACTUAL pay! AND the part where capping MAX speed of a truck will even have an EFFECT on its arrival time at a certain destination. Besides.... I thought it was "less speed = less free time! The MONEY will be the SAME because most of us are paid by the MILE! :roll:

Nice try at CYA, bud.... but, everyone here knows you were serious! And I didn't google anything. I'll admit to a few moments of brushing up on my college physics, but I understood those concepts the FIRST time I read them, and my explanation was free form.

IF, in fact, you were "joking" about Einstein's theory, I would appreciate the use of at least ONE emoticon in the future. In fact, looking over your previous posts on other threads, you always used them! So, the lack of them here suggests you weren't even ATTEMPTING a joke! Naw.... I stand by my assessment of you as a pseudo who THINKS he can baffle us with B.S. :lol:

IF you were paying attention, you would know that I HAVE already admitted that a driver MIGHT lose a small amount of TIME with the rollback. What I refuse to accept, is your whining about how valuable a few minutes of your TIME is worth in the greater picture, especially when your take home pay will not be affected! Please.... quote me anywhere on this thread as saying there is no loser! I will be more than happy to explain whatever quote you find in simple elementary school English for you!

My friends here KNOW that I am a man who will admit when he is wrong. I have admitted that in SOME, but not most, cases there COULD be a minor loss of time (while supporting my argument that the physics involved don't DEMAND it!) I will NOT admit that that equates to a loss of weekly takehome pay! (not for a measely 2 mph reduction.)

We are paid CPM in this industry PRECISELY because of the fact that TIME cannot be quantified for any given load, not EVEN for the SAME RUN on different days! It seems to me that it is YOU, and a few of your newbie friends, who have hitched your stars to the concept that you should be compensated for every minute of your time. This is a misconstruction that will cause you nothing but grief IF you ever make it into this industry.

You can put your "order to respond" where the sun don't shine! I respond because I LIKE to argue and YOU are the only b!tch I like to slap around at the moment. When I tire of you, there will be another! Probably not of your caliber.... I'll grant you that.... but inferior, nonetheless! :wink: If you think I'm "picking on you" NOW..... just pray to God you are never my trainee! :lol: WUSS!! [And I'll remind you that YOU started the fight!]

The Rev, Island and I ALL have the experience to KNOW about fuel bonuses! The FACT is, they have less effect on fuel savings than turning down the trucks! I say, again..... I am NOT for having my truck turned down! I'm for crucifying those who are responsible for the exhorbitant price of FUEL! But, I choose NOT to lose my job, or further exacerbate the downturn in our economy over some sanctimonious notion that my TIME is worth more than my company can afford to PAY for it!

The fact is.... my time is worth MORE than I make as a trucker! But, this is the job I chose for this time of my life! When I leave home for a week's run (or should it be 3 weeks if I were Solo,) I expect to make a certain amount of money for the MILES I drive.... and I'll do whatever it takes to get those loads delivered ON TIME, I have bigger things to be concerned about than a few minutes here and there! I guess part of that comes from my years in the military, and the discipline and devotion to duty that instilled in me. I suppose you have NO experience in THAT, either! :roll:

I'll repeat what I said before. Most of us drive a truck because we DON'T want to punch a clock! WE are happy to be paid by the job / mile / load.... whatever you want to call it! That gives us the FREEDOM to plan our own day, and to waste whatever amount of our precious time we choose in getting the load there on time! OUR TIME! If they turn our trucks down.... we'll DEAL with it! If they close the roads.... we'll DEAL with it! IF YOU can't DEAL with it...... get OFF MY ROADS! :roll:

There's no PLACE for a sniveling "bean counter" like you on the highways! Right now I'd say you appear to most on this board as a RUNT puppy with worms! The Big Dawgs on the porch will eat your LUNCH! On another thread you asked about lease purchase deals..... I think that is JUST right for you! You think you can change things, and make the owners bow down to your desires. Fine.... go ahead and sign the papers! We'll SEE how far your attitude takes you in this business!

DAMMIT driver! Move it, or PARK it! I've got no more time for you!

Hobo is OUT!

 

OK, you've finally conceded my only point. GOOD BOY! Now go fetch me a beer. :lol: