Whammo said:

Actually, I haven't changed my position at all! I ALWAYS said ANY extra time would be NEGLIGIBLE.

I don't "fetch" beers! I'll BUY..... but YOU gotta "fly!" :lol:

Oh.... and did you HAVE a point? :shock: :lol:

I must have missed it! But then, I don't shovel chit looking for ponies, either! :lol:

 

golfhobo wanted to know what Evinrude's rate of pay per mph was? Since he insists that HE is not paid by the mile, rather by the mph, I wanted to know what the going rate was...


here is the break down. when i achieve 68 mph i get 49 cents a minute. When i achieve 67 mph i get 48 cents a minute, When I achieve 66mph i get 47 cents per minute.....when i achieve 55 mph i get 39 cents per minute. When I am stopped i get nothing. Hope this helps.


Just wondering why you never flamed my answer yet?



And BTW I think I read your a trainer? Did you know that you help companies keep our pays rates down?

 

Here's another perfect real-world example of top speed vs actual driving time:

Last night I left Fairmont, WV with a 45,000lb load coming to Hagerstown, MD. I drove 127 miles last night, so, with my truck having a top speed of 64mph, I should've been able to do that in exactly 2hrs, correct?

Well, that didn't happen.

I drove for 2.75hrs with an average speed of 49.8mph. Why? Hmm - maybe it has something to do with the mountains, the weather and the lower speed coming into and through Cumberland, MD.

Again - those are true and actual real-world driving FACTS.

 

This thread has about run it's course if it doesn't move away from the playground. :roll:

Once more, if you don't understand the difference in top speed and average speed, you're never going to get it. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that even as a CPM driver, your pay is ONLY going to be effected if you can run and maintain top speed for all the time you are driving. Then, and ONLY then, would a cut in truck speed affect your pay. But none of you...NOT one of you, is running top speed 100% of the time, so therefore your argument that a speed cut of 2 mph, or 5 mph, or even 10 mph will effect your pay, is baseless.

 

If you are going slower it is going to take longer to get to your destination. And time is money.

 

I agree with that!! I did not read this entire thread..since I don't drive a company truck, speed has no relavance on my wage. However...I did peruse this page of the thread...and Evinrude has perplexed me with his declining wage, based on slower speed.

Evinrude wrote;
At 68 miles per hour (constant) you cover 68 miles. There are 60 minutes per hour (constant) so @ 49 cents per minute that puts you making : 60 X .49 = $29.40 per hour. Divide $29.40 by 68 miles, you make .4324 cents per mile. Ok...I get that. What I don't get, is why does your pay rate degrade, at slower speeds?

If your rate of pay is by the hour (an hour being 60 minutes) your rate per minute should stay constant @ 49 cents per minute. What changes should be your rate per mile, which at a slower speed, would drive your average cent per mile upwards, given that your hourly wage stays constant. So at 67 miles per hour, your rate per mile should be; 67 miles / 60 minutes = 1.117 miles per minute X .49 (cents per minute)= .5473 cents per mile, based on 67 miles per hour.

Now...if your wage fluctuates with your mileage...then you are getting hosed on your hourly rate, or you simply are not being paid a true hourly wage.

When a drivers wage is based strictly by the number of miles driven each shift, then a reduction in miles per hour (which leads to a reduction in miles per driving shift) does in fact produce a wage reduction.

At an aveage speed of 68 miles per hour, you could travel, in 11 hours, 748 miles. 748 miles at a "cent per mile wage" of 43 cents, pays out $321.64 for driving those 11 hours. That equates, on a strictly per hour basis (no overtime paid), a wage of $29.24 per hour ($321.64 / 11 hours).

If you reduce the average "Miles Per Hour" to 62 miles per hour, then 62 X 11 = 682 miles in those same 11 hours. 682 X .43 (cpm) = $293.26, over those 11 hours of driving time, which in turn becomes an hourly wage of $26.66 per hour driven.

By simple deductive reasoning....$26.66 per hour is a huge pay cut from $29.24 per hour.

 

You obviously still don't get it. You aren't going slower on average, because the top speed of the truck has little to do with the average speed. :roll:

 

Evinrude wrote;

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when i achieve <68 mph i get 49 cents a minute>. When i achieve 67 mph i get 48 cents a minute, When I achieve 66mph i get 47 cents per minute.....when i achieve 55 mph i get 39 cents per minute. When I am stopped I get nothing

Ya got it the speed multiplied by cpm rate = what I am make in a work day 11 hours. Speed is the only variable that I can control, the faster I go the more I make, the slower I go the less I make. I never average 68 miles per hour in a day. 56mph in a real good day, but If I was reduced to 55 top speed I would probably average 47 mph x .43cpm =$20.21 per.

btw tomorrow I unload and reload and I will average 20mph for the 11 hours.

When I caculate my time at the end of each week that I was in the company truck its less than $10 per hour

 

That's just it. You don't cover 68 miles in an hour with a truck that goes 68 mph. It just doesn't happen. And furthermore, you definately don't cover 748 miles in 11 hours with a truck that goes 68 mph.

Not when you are averaging it out.

How fast must a truck go to average 68 mph for 11 hours? I contend you must have a truck with a top speed of 72-75 mph to manage that, and even then it can only be done under the best of circumstances. The law of large numbers dictates that over time, fluctuations will average themselves out. Since only the top speed is affected (rather than the maximum speed and the minimum speed), the effect of reducing the top speed has less of an effect. If the minimum average speed also reduced proportionally to the top speed, then you would see a reduction in average speed in relation to the reduction in top speed. But since everything else remains constant, the average speed reduction has far less of an impact.

If a truck has a top speed of 65 mph, and averages 62 mph under ideal conditions, that same truck with a top speed of 63 mph will average nearly the same under the same conditions. This is because the truck isn't running at its top speed at all times (or hardly any of the time, in fact). If it were, then your argument would hold water. But under real-world situations, the speed of the truck isn't kept constant.

 

Of course it has something to do with it, silly boy. The longer you are at your top speed, the higher your average speed will be.