Turning down truck speed
#261
05-12-2008, 10:57 PM
Originally Posted by Chad,Col. Toon, Ron Kniesely
Of course it has something to do with it, silly boy. The longer you are at your top speed, the higher your average speed will be. 
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05-12-2008, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jumbo
If I be mean to someone can we have this thread locked?
Not until golfhobo weighs in... He should be around later, he is still trying to get some miles in, I think I seen him getting passed on I-95 northbound by a jogger.
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#264
05-12-2008, 11:49 PM
Originally Posted by Whammo
Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
You obviously still don't get it. You aren't going slower on average, because the top speed of the truck has little to do with the average speed. :roll:
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05-13-2008, 12:13 AM
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[quote="Rev.Vassago"][quote="Whammo"]
Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
You obviously still don't get it. You aren't going slower on average, because the top speed of the truck has little to do with the average speed. :roll:
Rev .... there is now way a man can be that stupid, somebody got to be helping you? :wink:
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#266
05-13-2008, 12:37 AM
[quote="Evinrude"][quote="Rev.Vassago"]
Originally Posted by Whammo
Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
You obviously still don't get it. You aren't going slower on average, because the top speed of the truck has little to do with the average speed. :roll:
Rev .... there is now way a man can be that stupid, somebody got to be helping you? :wink:
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#267
05-13-2008, 12:41 AM
Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by Orangetxguy
At 68 miles per hour (constant) you cover 68 miles.
When a drivers wage is based strictly by the number of miles driven each shift, then a reduction in miles per hour (which leads to a reduction in miles per driving shift) does in fact produce a wage reduction.
At an aveage speed of 68 miles per hour, you could travel, in 11 hours, 748 miles.
If a truck has a top speed of 65 mph, and averages 62 mph under ideal conditions, that same truck with a top speed of 63 mph will average nearly the same under the same conditions. This is because the truck isn't running at its top speed at all times (or hardly any of the time, in fact). If it were, then your argument would hold water. But under real-world situations, the speed of the truck isn't kept constant. I am a driver, whom keeps the left door closed. Once I am out on the open road, I can set the cruise control at 66 mph and leave it there, until traffic dictates that it come off. On a typical day of driving, I travel 610 miles, log 10.5 hours of driving time, and stop at least 3 times for restroom breaks. 610 miles / 10.5 hours = 58 (.09) miles per hour. [I drop the .09] 610 X .43 = $262.30 / 10.5 = $24.981 per hour as a driving wage. $262.30 / 11.25 (include 45 minutes for r&r breaks) = $23.3156 per hour. If a driver is only allowed to log 55 mph on his book, by company policy, over the course of an 11 hour driving day, that driver can travel 605 miles. If that driver is making .365 cents per mile, then the hourly wages for that driver can be figured by doing the math. If a driver is working on the mileage + hourly wage system...say .365 cents per mile and 13.25 per hour, then the math for an hourly wage becomes a bit more complex. Say a "local" driver works a 14 hour day, and in the 14 hours he drives for 6 hours while receiving $13.25 per hour for 8. What average speed do you think a "local" driver can maintain? Does it matter? For my example, I'm going to put down that the driver drove 248 miles in those 6 hours. 248 / 6 = 41.333 miles per hour 248 X .365 = $90.52 / 6 = $15.087 per hour driving. 8 (work hours) X $13.25 = $106.00 $106.00 + $90.52 = $196.52 gross for a 14 hour work day, or $14.037 per hour, without break time. Now..let's look at a driver that makes an hourly wage with overtime. The hourly rate is, shall we say, $26.90 per hour. The OT wage would be $40.35 per overtime hour. For kicks and giggles, we will say that this driver drove 9 hours over the course of his or her shift, and put in 465 miles, and a total shift of 14 hours. 8 (straight time) X $26.90 = $215.20 6 (overtime) X $40.35 = $242.10 Gross wage for the 14 hour day = $457.30. To complicate the math on this shift a bit, we will say that this driver drove 2.75 hours on OT. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: 2.75 X $40.35 = $110.9625 6.25 X $26.90 = $168.125 For the 9 hours of actual driving this driver did, the gross wage is $279.0875, on 465 miles. About 60 cents per mile driven. On the gross wage however, the mileage pay is a hair over 98 cents per mile. For the record, both of those examples came off 2 of my pay sheets. The first example was from the local job I held here in Orange TX, with the work date being Aug 23, 2006. The second example came from my local pay in Seattle, and was dated Sept 12, 2001. I had to break down the pay for 9-12-01. Figuring an hourly wage for a truck driver paid a "per mile" wage is complicated. And it is my personal belief that the majority of trucking compamies prefer that it remain that way.
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#268
05-13-2008, 01:26 AM
Originally Posted by Orangetxguy
A person's driving habits are what dictates what the average mile per hour of a truck is going to be, over the course of a driving shift.
I am a driver, whom keeps the left door closed. Once I am out on the open road, I can set the cruise control at 66 mph and leave it there, until traffic dictates that it come off. On a typical day of driving, I travel 610 miles, log 10.5 hours of driving time, and stop at least 3 times for restroom breaks. 610 miles / 10.5 hours = 58 (.09) miles per hour. [I drop the .09] 610 X .43 = $262.30 / 10.5 = $24.981 per hour as a driving wage. $262.30 / 11.25 (include 45 minutes for r&r breaks) = $23.3156 per hour. If a driver is only allowed to log 55 mph on his book, by company policy, over the course of an 11 hour driving day, that driver can travel 605 miles. If that driver is making .365 cents per mile, then the hourly wages for that driver can be figured by doing the math. If a driver is working on the mileage + hourly wage system...say .365 cents per mile and 13.25 per hour, then the math for an hourly wage becomes a bit more complex. Say a "local" driver works a 14 hour day, and in the 14 hours he drives for 6 hours while receiving $13.25 per hour for 8. What average speed do you think a "local" driver can maintain? Does it matter? For my example, I'm going to put down that the driver drove 248 miles in those 6 hours. 248 / 6 = 41.333 miles per hour 248 X .365 = $90.52 / 6 = $15.087 per hour driving. 8 (work hours) X $13.25 = $106.00 $106.00 + $90.52 = $196.52 gross for a 14 hour work day, or $14.037 per hour, without break time. Now..let's look at a driver that makes an hourly wage with overtime. The hourly rate is, shall we say, $26.90 per hour. The OT wage would be $40.35 per overtime hour. For kicks and giggles, we will say that this driver drove 9 hours over the course of his or her shift, and put in 465 miles, and a total shift of 14 hours. 8 (straight time) X $26.90 = $215.20 6 (overtime) X $40.35 = $242.10 Gross wage for the 14 hour day = $457.30. To complicate the math on this shift a bit, we will say that this driver drove 2.75 hours on OT. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: 2.75 X $40.35 = $110.9625 6.25 X $26.90 = $168.125 For the 9 hours of actual driving this driver did, the gross wage is $279.0875, on 465 miles. About 60 cents per mile driven. On the gross wage however, the mileage pay is a hair over 98 cents per mile. For the record, both of those examples came off 2 of my pay sheets. The first example was from the local job I held here in Orange TX, with the work date being Aug 23, 2006. The second example came from my local pay in Seattle, and was dated Sept 12, 2001. I had to break down the pay for 9-12-01. Figuring an hourly wage for a truck driver paid a "per mile" wage is complicated. And it is my personal belief that the majority of trucking compamies prefer that it remain that way. I think a few heads are gonna explode. Look at BigDiesel's head, it already looks like 10 pounds of meat in a 5 pound bag.
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05-13-2008, 10:59 PM
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My truck doeas 75mmp and when i see the a Werner truck Clad with 500k-million mile stickers I'll pass and drop back to 62-63 wait to see directional ,and bump cruise 2x then go a mile or so and decel back top 62-63 ...if road is fairly empty I'll do this a few times then let Werner almost pass and then kick back up to 75 ...I reserve this childish behavior for 500k -1 million milers ...Because these drivers are not rookies just getting their time in and moving ,but die hard Werner company drivers ...It's a guilty pleasure ,and childish ...And I'm sure I'm going to he!! for it , but it sure is fun .
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