Turning down truck speed
#51
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Of course a slower governed speed is going to mean either longer hours or less miles for the driver. It can't mean anything else. When you're talking about 2mph it's a pretty insignificant amount over a week or two but over the course of a year it still adds up.
Now I'm very new to driving but I think the big companies would be better off working with bonuses for fuel mileage where both the driver and company benefit from increasing the mpg.
#52
Originally Posted by all18wheels
Originally Posted by GMAN
I can certainly understand the frustration of having your wings clipped. However, during difficult economic times, we must all make sacrifices. If you want your company to be loyal and supportive of you, then you must be loyal and supportive of the company. Traveling a few miles per hour slower and cutting down your idle time is a small thing to ask. It could save your company a lot of money and also save your job.
i dont know, GMAN. you dont think the big boys make enough money as it is? cost cutting has to be from the drivers wallets and phisical/mental recovery time? that extra 30-60 minutes could be spent resting, or calling mom or the kids or showering or just some quiet time. but instead , the have to spend it on the road getting passed by other drivers getting to an already packed truckstop first. i disagree completely Some of the big boys are not making that much money right now. Some of the large carriers have posted strong earnings in the past, but the margins can be very slim in this business, even in the best of times. Frankly, I think we would be much better off with fewer large carrier and more smaller carriers. The type of attitude you display is what killed the steel industry in this country several decades ago. Union workers were unwilling to compromise on some issues so that their employers could modernize in order to more effectively compete with foreign competitors. The result was that the steel industry is virtually non-existent in much of the U.S. Sacrificing a few mph to save money isn't a great sacrifice. It is a small price to pay to keep your job. If you feel that this is something that you cannot accept then there are plenty of other carriers out here. Of course, you can always buy your own truck and get your authority. Then you can drive as fast as you want. :roll:
#53
For me, driving slower just sucks. My average miles per day are only about 400. Also, most of those miles are spent driving into and out of WV. So, other than when I actually do get to flatter/straighter roads, I won't even notice that the truck is running slower. I just don't like being passed by every Tom, Dick and Harry :wink:
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#54
For me...and probably most chemical tanker yankers....its not about the miles anyway. So its a "non-issue"...besides...my truck is governed at 68, and I generally find that when all is said and done....my average speed is usually around 58, to 61.....unless I am in the flatlands all the time. This past week for 5 days I did 2111 miles...pay will be about $1260.00...
I checked into a motel last night...and will be here tonight... Go ahead, turn my truck down to "62".....I'll end up making the same money anyway. And the upside is this.... I might even see a raise on the cpm. If fuel mileage was to improve overall, the companies would have to spend less on fuel, and it would actually be less "expensive" to pay the driver more cpm than the extra diesel burnt at higher speeds.
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#55
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I am paid by the mile The miles I do in a week are determined much much more by the miles I am dispatched , the appointment times to the customer & how soon another load is available after i've delivered one, than by speed.
On Friday afternoon I got a load scheduled to pick up on Saturday with a monday morning delivery appt. at 0800 with 250 deadhead miles to shipper &nearly 600 miles to receiver .Load was ready Friday evening so I picked up & planned to do a 34 hour reset at an idleaire truckstop & hope that TNT has having a Law & Order Marathon on on Sunday. This scenario might or might not be typical, but is a true world case. My 65 mph truck will do the same number of miles within that time (Friday evening to Monday Morning)as a 75 mph truck ,as well as a 55mph truck so there is no pay cut for the slower truck. The faster truck will get might be an extra hour at the truck stop to "call home & talk to the kids" but i think the original gripe was that reduced speeds will result in reduced pay ,which as was pointed out earlier ,would likely be insignificant The above is a true story.I am at a company terminal waiting for Monday morning to drive the last 4 hours to the receiver. This next one is made up .I show 15 minutes for pre-trip inspection ,drive 7 hours to receiver, log 15 minutes for fueling, log 30 minutes at the truck stop to get something to eat,wait 1 hour for my appointment since they won't take me too early, 2 hours to unload,15 minutes to drive from the receiver to a truck stop or a n empty lot to park & wait 30 minutes for dispatch to send me another load.11.5 hors have passed since I first went on duty, so now I can only drive 2 -2.5 hours so that gives me a maximum 9-9.5 hours driving,not 11.Again how many miles I can travel has much more to do with factors other than how fast my truck can go. But then again if I worked for a company where I could just take off running aimlessly for 11 hours with no particular destination in mind and no specific time to get there & nothing like city traffic or heavy loads going through mountains, or construction,or being routed along Highway 30 to save on the Indiana & Ohio tolls ,or weather conditions or delays at customers or 55 mph states or those 11,14 & 70 hour HOS rules, then I would complain about my pay being reduced as a result of my truck's speed being cut back, & as Gman said ,I'd go get my own truck & drive as fast as I wanted.(I'd also never shut my truck off & idle constantly)
#56
Originally Posted by 2hellandback
And you sound like the type of guy that carries your own jar of vasoline and says thank you sir after they stick it to you !
Speed limits 55 i do 60 65 i do 70 75 i do 80 If i feel safe and the truck can pull it. If you show 11 hours a day driving, every day, then by Friday morning you are parked and out of hours! Sounds like you need some good lessons in time management! Better management = more money, not related to speed! I have proved it to many rookies like yourself, many times and have the records to prove it! You think running your ass of, maxing out your trucks abilities, and over estimating your own abilities, that you can make more money than the guy that manages his time and equipment properly! You are the one sitting on the side of the road, while the DOT is giving you a good going over, because you where running over the limit! Grow up! You are the dipstick that is parked on Thursday whining that he has no hours to pick up that kick butt load! You are the guy sitting on the side of the road whining that his truck is broke down or has a blown tire because your pre-trip was inadequate! You play your game and keep whining, and in the end, those of us that manage our time properly will be making more money with less effort! Go ahead and flame away, we all know how you CB Rambo's are, all mike and no balls! Edit: on another note - you can quit acting like you are intelligent by correcting others typo's!
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#57
Originally Posted by Island
I am paid by the mile The miles I do in a week are determined much much more by the miles I am dispatched , the appointment times to the customer & how soon another load is available after i've delivered one, than by speed.
On Friday afternoon I got a load scheduled to pick up on Saturday with a monday morning delivery appt. at 0800 with 250 deadhead miles to shipper &nearly 600 miles to receiver .Load was ready Friday evening so I picked up & planned to do a 34 hour reset at an idleaire truckstop & hope that TNT has having a Law & Order Marathon on on Sunday. This scenario might or might not be typical, but is a true world case. My 65 mph truck will do the same number of miles within that time (Friday evening to Monday Morning)as a 75 mph truck ,as well as a 55mph truck so there is no pay cut for the slower truck. The faster truck will get might be an extra hour at the truck stop to "call home & talk to the kids" but i think the original gripe was that reduced speeds will result in reduced pay ,which as was pointed out earlier ,would likely be insignificant The above is a true story.I am at a company terminal waiting for Monday morning to drive the last 4 hours to the receiver. This next one is made up .I show 15 minutes for pre-trip inspection ,drive 7 hours to receiver, log 15 minutes for fueling, log 30 minutes at the truck stop to get something to eat,wait 1 hour for my appointment since they won't take me too early, 2 hours to unload,15 minutes to drive from the receiver to a truck stop or a n empty lot to park & wait 30 minutes for dispatch to send me another load.11.5 hors have passed since I first went on duty, so now I can only drive 2 -2.5 hours so that gives me a maximum 9-9.5 hours driving,not 11.Again how many miles I can travel has much more to do with factors other than how fast my truck can go. But then again if I worked for a company where I could just take off running aimlessly for 11 hours with no particular destination in mind and no specific time to get there & nothing like city traffic or heavy loads going through mountains, or construction,or being routed along Highway 30 to save on the Indiana & Ohio tolls ,or weather conditions or delays at customers or 55 mph states or those 11,14 & 70 hour HOS rules, then I would complain about my pay being reduced as a result of my truck's speed being cut back, & as Gman said ,I'd go get my own truck & drive as fast as I wanted.(I'd also never shut my truck off & idle constantly)
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#58
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My neighbour's truck is governed at 67 mph.My truck is governed at 55 mph(65 actually).We both leave on Sunday& do roughly 3000 miles .
He gets back home on Thursday & I get back home on Friday. I'm on The road longer FOR THE SAME PAY. Unless my neighbour is paid an hourly rate, then he is NOT paid by the speed but BY THE MILE & one of the original complaints at the start of this thread was a cut in pay due to reduction in truck speed,which ,by this example,is shown not to be true,since my 55 mph truck does the same miles as my neighbour's 67 mph truck
#59
Originally Posted by Island
My neighbour's truck is governed at 67 mph.My truck is governed at 55 mph(65 actually).We both leave on Sunday& do roughly 3000 miles .
He gets back home on Thursday & I get back home on Friday. I'm on The road longer FOR THE SAME PAY. Unless my neighbour is paid an hourly rate, then he is NOT paid by the speed but BY THE MILE & one of the original complaints at the start of this thread was a cut in pay due to reduction in truck speed,which ,by this example,is shown not to be true,since my 55 mph truck does the same miles as my neighbour's 67 mph truck
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Originally Posted by Island
My neighbour's truck is governed at 67 mph.My truck is governed at 55 mph(65 actually).We both leave on Sunday& do roughly 3000 miles .
He gets back home on Thursday & I get back home on Friday. I'm on The road longer FOR THE SAME PAY. Unless my neighbour is paid an hourly rate, then he is NOT paid by the speed but BY THE MILE & one of the original complaints at the start of this thread was a cut in pay due to reduction in truck speed,which ,by this example,is shown not to be true,since my 55 mph truck does the same miles as my neighbour's 67 mph truck With a reduction of speed you must drive longer to get the same miles. That is a reduction of pay to me. My time off is very important.
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