Turning down truck speed
#61
05-04-2008, 02:41 PM
I'm a self confessed goober incapable of 5th grade math.
To my goober mind however 67mph man doing 3000 miles and 55mph man doing 3000mph = same pay for both.(The assumption is that both are getting the same cpm). But what do I know? I'm just a goober incapable of 5th grade math. Somebody please enlighten me as to how 55mph man is getting a pay cut compared to 67 mph man (remember they, like most otr drivers are paid by the mile). And please do it without further confusing this goober ,because I thought that the original complaint was about a cut in pay, but it seems to be morphing into less home time. My goober mind can only deal with one issue at a time,so are we still on pay cut resulting from a reduction in truck speed, or are we now talking about hometime? Please make my mind up for me 
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05-04-2008, 02:57 PM
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[quote="Island"]I'm a self confessed goober incapable of 5th grade math.
To my goober mind however 67mph man doing 3000 miles and 55mph man doing 3000mph = same pay for both.(The assumption is that both are getting the same cpm). But what do I know? I'm just a goober incapable of 5th grade math. If your time is worth nothing than there is no loss of pay. But my time is worth someting and to drive slower to do the same miles and get paid the same is a pay cut. I your still don't get it, drive for a week at 30 mph at lets know how ya did.
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#63
05-04-2008, 03:09 PM
The trip I'll be running today is 419 miles. Before my speed was cut to 62mph it would run 68mph. Of course, with the mountains and such, it's impossible to run 68mph over the entire length. Assuming, however that I could run the full 68mph/62mph from start to finish, the trip will take me an extra 15 minutes.
When I get there, I'll shut down for my 10hrs (actually it'll be more like 11-12hrs of downtime) before I unload and head back. So, that 15 minutes isn't going to affect me in the least. Like I said earlier - for me, it's not about the money since I run short trips. It's more about the "I hate being passed" issue. Not to mention that the entire trip, minus maybe 10 miles, has a 65mph speed limit, with quite a bit of it having a 70mph limit. Just wave at me as you go by. At least they only cut the speed. They didn't cut the engine power in the least, so I'll climb the hills at the same slow speed that I did when the truck would go faster.
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#64
05-04-2008, 03:13 PM
Or....
You could turn that around and become an owner operator and pay for your fuel... Then you would make LOTS MORE at 55 than 65.... I'll be honest, I'm not surprised about all the attitudes I see out here...it's rampant in this industry. It's all about me and MY paycheck...to hell with everyone else! :?
#65
05-04-2008, 03:14 PM
Originally Posted by countryhorseman
Originally Posted by retiredmb
It's true that most people won't notice any difference at the end of the week, my question is are the computers in the office being cut back, is the spin on the wrench in the shop being cut back,,,,, and so on, why is it up to Drivers to take the cut back by them selves, they did not effect the cost increases in the price of fuel.
If you knew my background, you wouldn't assume to know that I could or could not run anything. I started driving Truck at 65 years old, after working 30 years in major Companies, was one of 30,000 forced into early retirement and after surviving 5 major employee/cost reduction "belt tighting" programs. I can tell you that every employee of every company shares in the responsibility of making a company profitable, even the CEO that receives an annual salary of 14.4 million while figuering a way to cut more employees from the payroll. So when I suggest that all employes work longer hours for the same pay, I do have a small insite into a program of this type. "Those peoples jobs in the offices and shops depend solely on the production of the drivers that they are responsible for keeping on the road! " wrong,,,,,,, they are equally responsible to produce. Those peoples jobs in the offices and shops depend solely on the production of the drivers that they are responsible for keeping on the road! So what the heck makes one think, that they would penalize the lifelines! Those people have to pay for the same high price fuels, the ever increasing price of food, etc, etc as we behind the wheel of these trucks! They are just as concerned about the number on the paycheck as we are, and in turn, they have to also make sacrifices to save the bottom line! Quit the d*%& whining, tighten the belt, and do the job you hired on to do, based on the companies policies that your agreed to abide by! If ya don't like it, go to work for McDonalds! Oh, and while your at it, clean up the foul mouth, trash talking crap on the CB! Crud, now I done got aggrevated about this whining! Grow the H*&^ up people!
#66
05-04-2008, 03:15 PM
Be realistic. Cutting back to, or driving 30 mph is absurd . No matter what happens I think it near impossible that any company or state or the federal government is going to go so low with speeds for trucks , so if you are going to discuss something with this retarded goober, then please do me a favour and be reasonable.
By your way of thinking, why have my neighbour's truck do 67mph? Get laws changed to allow 97mph That will certainly do much better than my neighbour's 67mph truck. My questions still are unanswered. (1) How is 55mph man at 3000 miles per week getting a pay cut compared to 67mph man at 3000 miles per week? (which was the response to the original post)? (2) Are we still discussing pay cut resulting from reduction in truck speed or are we now abandoning that issue to discuss hometime(which I concede is an important issue for SOME drivers). I need to have my mind made up for me.
#67
05-04-2008, 03:19 PM
Originally Posted by Island
Be realistic. Cutting back to, or driving 30 mph is absurd . No matter what happens I think it near impossible that any company or state or the federal government is going to go so low with speeds for trucks , so if you are going to discuss something with this retarded goober, then please do me a favour and be reasonable.
By your way of thinking, why have my neighbour's truck do 67mph? Get laws changed to allow 97mph That will certainly do much better than my neighbour's 67mph truck. My questions still are unanswered. (1) How is 55mph man at 3000 miles per week getting a pay cut compared to 67mph man at 3000 miles per week? (which was the response to the original post)? (2) Are we still discussing pay cut resulting from reduction in truck speed or are we now abandoning that issue to discuss hometime(which I concede is an important issue for SOME drivers). I need to have my mind made up for me. Heck, I think the most miles I've drove in one day in the past year was only about 600. When I parked, I still had plenty of time.
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#68
05-04-2008, 03:41 PM
Originally Posted by Island
I'm a self confessed goober incapable of 5th grade math.
To my goober mind however 67mph man doing 3000 miles and 55mph man doing 3000mph = same pay for both.(The assumption is that both are getting the same cpm). But what do I know? I'm just a goober incapable of 5th grade math. Somebody please enlighten me as to how 55mph man is getting a pay cut compared to 67 mph man (remember they, like most otr drivers are paid by the mile). And please do it without further confusing this goober ,because I thought that the original complaint was about a cut in pay, but it seems to be morphing into less home time. My goober mind can only deal with one issue at a time,so are we still on pay cut resulting from a reduction in truck speed, or are we now talking about hometime? Please make my mind up for me 3000 mile trip at 55 mph... About 54.5 hours... 3000 mile trip at 65 mph... About 46 hours... Assuming you get unloaded and reloaded in a timely manner, that means you start your next run about 8 hours sooner. Same amount of money but 8 hours less time. So, you're getting paid by the mile, the more miles you can make in an hour, the more per hour you are makiing. So, by the end of the week, you may have 16 more hours of driving than the guy that's doing 55 mph. That's roughly about a thousand miles more, and about $350 more pay.... Give or take whatever you're making per mile. Having said that... I work off of appointment times. While some runs are "tight", others give me enough time to get an extra 4 to 6 hours of sleep. No matter what time I get there, they won't touch my load until my appointment time.
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#69
05-04-2008, 04:56 PM
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I think all this discussion will be a mute point before long anyhow! Congress is setting up to change the national speed limit back to 60. There has been allot of talk and action on the part of the ATA to get all trucks with a tamper proof speed governor at 65 or less! And by this time next year, more than likely all trucks will be required to be equipped with transponders that are involved in interstate commerce! The transponders will be a tattle tale that can tell DOT how far, how long, and how fast a truck has been running! A large percentage of companies will be required to have the black boxes and tamper proof electronic logs!
Don't flame me! The trucking industry has done this to themselves, and the drivers play a big part of the additional regulations! Again, If ya don't like the rules of this playground, ya better start looking for another to play in!!
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#70
05-04-2008, 05:31 PM
Originally Posted by countryhorseman
Originally Posted by 2hellandback
And you sound like the type of guy that carries your own jar of vasoline and says thank you sir after they stick it to you !
Speed limits 55 i do 60 65 i do 70 75 i do 80 If i feel safe and the truck can pull it. If you show 11 hours a day driving, every day, then by Friday morning you are parked and out of hours! Sounds like you need some good lessons in time management! Better management = more money, not related to speed! I have proved it to many rookies like yourself, many times and have the records to prove it! Ill bet you would bitch about averaging $5,750 a month and having 3days a week off ,too wouldnt you You think running your ass of, maxing out your trucks abilities, and over estimating your own abilities, that you can make more money than the guy that manages his time and equipment properly! You are the one sitting on the side of the road, while the DOT is giving you a good going over, because you where running over the limit! Grow up! Ive never recieved a ticket or fine yet,(well not while driving a truck!)You are the dipstick that is parked on Thursday whining that he has no hours to pick up that kick butt load! You are the guy sitting on the side of the road whining that his truck is broke down or has a blown tire because your pre-trip was inadequate! You play your game and keep whining, and in the end, those of us that manage our time properly will be making more money with less effort! Go ahead and flame away, we all know how you CB Rambo's are, all mike and no balls! Edit: on another note - you can quit acting like you are intelligent by correcting others typo's! |
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