Turning down truck speed
#71
05-04-2008, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 2hellandback
Ill bet you would bitch about averaging $5,750 a month and having 3days a week off ,too wouldnt you
I live in a world of reality, not fantasy! Go bark at someone else, since your arguments here still do not hold water!
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#72
05-04-2008, 06:22 PM
Originally Posted by Island
I'm a self confessed goober incapable of 5th grade math.
To my goober mind however 67mph man doing 3000 miles and 55mph man doing 3000mph = same pay for both.(The assumption is that both are getting the same cpm). But what do I know? I'm just a goober incapable of 5th grade math. Using your figures 3000 miles at 55 = 54.5 hours drive time. 3000 miles at 67 = 44.7 hours drive time. At 67 mph you will get to your destination about 10 hrs sooner , unload and head for the next load 10 hours ahead of the load going 55 mph. Cents per mile turn into dollars per hours earned. Somebody please enlighten me as to how 55mph man is getting a pay cut compared to 67 mph man (remember they, like most otr drivers are paid by the mile). And please do it without further confusing this goober ,because I thought that the original complaint was about a cut in pay, but it seems to be morphing into less home time. My goober mind can only deal with one issue at a time,so are we still on pay cut resulting from a reduction in truck speed, or are we now talking about hometime? Please make my mind up for me
#73
05-04-2008, 06:30 PM
Originally Posted by countryhorseman
Originally Posted by 2hellandback
Ill bet you would bitch about averaging $5,750 a month and having 3days a week off ,too wouldnt you
I live in a world of reality, not fantasy! Go bark at someone else, since your arguments here still do not hold water!
#75
05-04-2008, 07:03 PM
Originally Posted by 2hellandback
Originally Posted by golfhobo
Originally Posted by Whammo
Originally Posted by 2hellandback
Based on .35 cents per mile and an 11 hour drive day
Pay at 62 miles per hour 238.70 x 5 days = 1193.50 per week Pay at 72 miles per hour 277.20 x 5 days = $1386.00 per week Pay at 62 miles per hour = $4774.00 per month Pay at 72 miles per hour = $5544.00 per month Difference in pay 62mph VS. 72 mph = $770.00 per month SCREW 62,,, I WANT AN EXTRA $770.00 A MONTH OR $9240.00 PER YEAR If you are making the same money it is because you are driving more hours, plain and simple. Get a clue. BOTH of you will be LUCKY if you get $770 a week! Do you know of some new method of OFFLOADING your trailer while you are speeding down the highway? Or LOADING it? :shock: You're gonna get a couple of loads a week, mostly low miles to start! You're gonna TAKE the money they GIVE you and be happy for it! :lol: I don't really remember the BASIC math taught in the 5th grade.... of course "I" didn't have to struggle to pass the 5th grade! I DID sleep through 11th grade Algebra, and STILL passed with a grade of 98! Tests are REALLY easy IF you understand math! :lol: (BTW, the 2% was deducted for not turning in my USELESS homework assignments on time!) I was then exempt from all future math classes until I got to college Trig. The FIRST night, I had to CORRECT the professor after he wrote out a two blackboard trig equation! Following along as he wrote, I noticed that he transposed pie over 2 when it should have been 2 over pie! I "exempted" myself from the rest of HIS class! :shock: :lol: You don't even WANT to question MY intelligence! And, you MIGHT not want to question my (albeit limited) experience! I can drive FAST, or I can drive Slow! Either way, I'll get the same number of loads per week, and I suspect that is the same for MOST "solo" drivers! Therefore, I'll get the same number of miles per week. Yeah, it takes longer at a slower speed..... but no longer than getting caught behind a slower truck! Most of YOU will do that most of the time, JUST because you are a lousy driver! YOU are the ones without a clue! If EITHER of you could max out your governed mph, I'd be amazed! And if you don't know how to "speed average" your logbook, you're not really serious about making money anyway! :roll: What you two know about trucking, and what you are talking about, wouldn't fill a THIMBLE! Get in the SLOW lane, rookie! And put on your flashers! :lol: :lol: The only possible way this could have zero effect on a driver's pay is if that driver NEVER went over the currently governed speed before the change. I'm not an expert driver, but I have driven cross country and know all the hundreds upon hundreds of miles of 70mph speed limit and straight road. To go the same distance in a day you have to drive longer. A child can understand it.
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#76
05-04-2008, 07:15 PM
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Hmmm... just a couple of points to ponder here guys...
I'm no rookie, have been at this for 30 years now, as an owner/operator. 1. You cannot possibly maintain the speed limit for your full drive time. There are hills to climb, traffic to contend with, etc. The company I pull for figures on an average speed of 45 mph, & most of the company trucks average around 42, & our highway speed limits are 70. 2. If you drive slower you will arrive at your destination, on for example a 600 mile trip, roughly 20 minutes later than the guy who did 5 mph faster. Really now, what's 20 minutes? 3. A truck that has a lower rpm burns less fuel. For instance, if I do 65 mph my engine rpm is 1450, if I do 60 my engine rpm is 1300, hence better fuel mileage at 60, less fuel, more money in my pocket, less stress by driving 5 mph slower. 4. Now if you figure that in your driving day you are going to get, IN REALITY, the full 11 hours, well let's face it, it really doesn't happen. You might truthfully really only do 9.5 to 10 & that vast majority of those hours will be a slower speed cause you are not always out on open highway where you can do the speed limit. Just my 2 cents worth! 
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#77
05-04-2008, 07:23 PM
Originally Posted by Windwalker
Originally Posted by Island
I'm a self confessed goober incapable of 5th grade math.
To my goober mind however 67mph man doing 3000 miles and 55mph man doing 3000mph = same pay for both.(The assumption is that both are getting the same cpm). But what do I know? I'm just a goober incapable of 5th grade math. Somebody please enlighten me as to how 55mph man is getting a pay cut compared to 67 mph man (remember they, like most otr drivers are paid by the mile). And please do it without further confusing this goober ,because I thought that the original complaint was about a cut in pay, but it seems to be morphing into less home time. My goober mind can only deal with one issue at a time,so are we still on pay cut resulting from a reduction in truck speed, or are we now talking about hometime? Please make my mind up for me 3000 mile trip at 55 mph... About 54.5 hours... 3000 mile trip at 65 mph... About 46 hours... Assuming you get unloaded and reloaded in a timely manner, that means you start your next run about 8 hours sooner. Same amount of money but 8 hours less time. So, you're getting paid by the mile, the more miles you can make in an hour, the more per hour you are makiing. So, by the end of the week, you may have 16 more hours of driving than the guy that's doing 55 mph. That's roughly about a thousand miles more, and about $350 more pay.... Give or take whatever you're making per mile. Having said that... I work off of appointment times. While some runs are "tight", others give me enough time to get an extra 4 to 6 hours of sleep. No matter what time I get there, they won't touch my load until my appointment time. If Dick drives 11 hours @ 55mph making 50cpm he takes home $302.50 If Jane drives 11 hours @ 65mph making 50cpm she takes home $357.50
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#78
05-04-2008, 07:25 PM
Originally Posted by wildkat
Hmmm... just a couple of points to ponder here guys...
I'm no rookie, have been at this for 30 years now, as an owner/operator. 1. You cannot possibly maintain the speed limit for your full drive time. There are hills to climb, traffic to contend with, etc. The company I pull for figures on an average speed of 45 mph, & most of the company trucks average around 42, & our highway speed limits are 70. 2. If you drive slower you will arrive at your destination, on for example a 600 mile trip, roughly 20 minutes later than the guy who did 5 mph faster. Really now, what's 20 minutes? 3. A truck that has a lower rpm burns less fuel. For instance, if I do 65 mph my engine rpm is 1450, if I do 60 my engine rpm is 1300, hence better fuel mileage at 60, less fuel, more money in my pocket, less stress by driving 5 mph slower. 4. Now if you figure that in your driving day you are going to get, IN REALITY, the full 11 hours, well let's face it, it really doesn't happen. You might truthfully really only do 9.5 to 10 & that vast majority of those hours will be a slower speed cause you are not always out on open highway where you can do the speed limit. Just my 2 cents worth!
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#79
05-04-2008, 07:27 PM
Originally Posted by Island
Be realistic. Cutting back to, or driving 30 mph is absurd . No matter what happens I think it near impossible that any company or state or the federal government is going to go so low with speeds for trucks , so if you are going to discuss something with this retarded goober, then please do me a favour and be reasonable.
By your way of thinking, why have my neighbour's truck do 67mph? Get laws changed to allow 97mph That will certainly do much better than my neighbour's 67mph truck. My questions still are unanswered. (1) How is 55mph man at 3000 miles per week getting a pay cut compared to 67mph man at 3000 miles per week? (which was the response to the original post)? (2) Are we still discussing pay cut resulting from reduction in truck speed or are we now abandoning that issue to discuss hometime(which I concede is an important issue for SOME drivers). I need to have my mind made up for me.
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#80
05-04-2008, 08:18 PM
Originally Posted by Whammo
Originally Posted by wildkat
Hmmm... just a couple of points to ponder here guys...
I'm no rookie, have been at this for 30 years now, as an owner/operator. 1. You cannot possibly maintain the speed limit for your full drive time. There are hills to climb, traffic to contend with, etc. The company I pull for figures on an average speed of 45 mph, & most of the company trucks average around 42, & our highway speed limits are 70. 2. If you drive slower you will arrive at your destination, on for example a 600 mile trip, roughly 20 minutes later than the guy who did 5 mph faster. Really now, what's 20 minutes? 3. A truck that has a lower rpm burns less fuel. For instance, if I do 65 mph my engine rpm is 1450, if I do 60 my engine rpm is 1300, hence better fuel mileage at 60, less fuel, more money in my pocket, less stress by driving 5 mph slower. 4. Now if you figure that in your driving day you are going to get, IN REALITY, the full 11 hours, well let's face it, it really doesn't happen. You might truthfully really only do 9.5 to 10 & that vast majority of those hours will be a slower speed cause you are not always out on open highway where you can do the speed limit. Just my 2 cents worth! |
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