Union/Careful What You Wish For!!!!
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Orangetex maybe Fuelman is talking about contracted carriers pulling product for BP/Arco. All the old BP Guys out here have told me that they are like the dinasours ( There's not one left roaming the planet) unless they are pulling for another company.. I know when they became extinct out here in Florida. Florida Rock took over on a temporary basis untill the stores sold then Mansfield stepped in and took over. I am with you on the hours those guys worked the two BP drivers who hired on with Mansfield talked about their $22 to $25 an hour jobs with OT after 40 and never working less then 60. they were making big bucks.. Do you know any of the Tampa / Orlando area drivers??? Snowman are you guys expecting contract issues in 2013? Romours are like azzholes but the one I hear the most is that with UPS stating they are looking to replace 20,000 plus drivers in the next 5 years due to so many coming to retirement age is a code for they are getting ready to attempt a lockout in order to stay competative with Fed EX.. If the NHL is able to lock players out for one year and still come back to a sucessful season who says UPS can't do the same especialy with 3 years of pre planning. it seems plausible...(not sure if it is true or if it would work, but you never know in this day and age) How many guys could hold out on strike if it were to last 6 months to a year and a half or longer?? As it stands for me right now I would not be able to last more then 12 months before I would have to start looking to work elsewhere. Some of my old Orlando Freight buddies seem to think that plan is in the works, do you guys talk about the possibility? Timberwolf.
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Southern Ontario
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I like these guys that think they are making big bucks when they work 20 extra hours a week. Then they find out the extra hours put them in a different tax bracket and the extra hours work out to half their normal rate. Good deal huh!
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#23
With all due respect. Timberwolf
#24
Chirp chirp chirp......
Orangetex maybe Fuelman is talking about contracted carriers pulling product for BP/Arco. All the old BP Guys out here have told me that they are like the dinasours ( There's not one left roaming the planet) unless they are pulling for another company.. I know when they became extinct out here in Florida. Florida Rock took over on a temporary basis untill the stores sold then Mansfield stepped in and took over. I am with you on the hours those guys worked the two BP drivers who hired on with Mansfield talked about their $22 to $25 an hour jobs with OT after 40 and never working less then 60. they were making big bucks.. Do you know any of the Tampa / Orlando area drivers??? Snowman are you guys expecting contract issues in 2013? Romours are like azzholes but the one I hear the most is that with UPS stating they are looking to replace 20,000 plus drivers in the next 5 years due to so many coming to retirement age is a code for they are getting ready to attempt a lockout in order to stay competative with Fed EX.. If the NHL is able to lock players out for one year and still come back to a sucessful season who says UPS can't do the same especialy with 3 years of pre planning. it seems plausible...(not sure if it is true or if it would work, but you never know in this day and age) How many guys could hold out on strike if it were to last 6 months to a year and a half or longer?? As it stands for me right now I would not be able to last more then 12 months before I would have to start looking to work elsewhere. Some of my old Orlando Freight buddies seem to think that plan is in the works, do you guys talk about the possibility? Timberwolf. As far as whom I knew in Tampa/Orlando....no drivers. But There was a guy named Bob Raley, whom was a driver in Seattle and moved to Atlanta to work as the "Safety" guy between the Dora terminal, Tampa/Orlando terminal....and I thnk the terminal that was in Clearwater......not sure about that one. I don't know what Bob is doing now...haven't talked to him since 08. Special Kay......You're right. After a certain point, working to much overtime simply kills you. I found that I took the best money home, by working a consistant 55 hour week. My last 3 years I averaged $74K a year....and felt better for working fewer hours. Of course.....the 3 years prior to those years....I was lucky to have had the job. I had a really bad illness, that should have killedme. But for 3 great doctors.....and ARCO's awesome medical benefits. (which went out the door when BP walked in)
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Chirp chirp chirp......
Orangetex maybe Fuelman is talking about contracted carriers pulling product for BP/Arco. All the old BP Guys out here have told me that they are like the dinasours ( There's not one left roaming the planet) unless they are pulling for another company.. I know when they became extinct out here in Florida. Florida Rock took over on a temporary basis untill the stores sold then Mansfield stepped in and took over. I am with you on the hours those guys worked the two BP drivers who hired on with Mansfield talked about their $22 to $25 an hour jobs with OT after 40 and never working less then 60. they were making big bucks.. Do you know any of the Tampa / Orlando area drivers??? Snowman are you guys expecting contract issues in 2013? Romours are like azzholes but the one I hear the most is that with UPS stating they are looking to replace 20,000 plus drivers in the next 5 years due to so many coming to retirement age is a code for they are getting ready to attempt a lockout in order to stay competative with Fed EX.. If the NHL is able to lock players out for one year and still come back to a sucessful season who says UPS can't do the same especialy with 3 years of pre planning. it seems plausible...(not sure if it is true or if it would work, but you never know in this day and age) How many guys could hold out on strike if it were to last 6 months to a year and a half or longer?? As it stands for me right now I would not be able to last more then 12 months before I would have to start looking to work elsewhere. Some of my old Orlando Freight buddies seem to think that plan is in the works, do you guys talk about the possibility? Timberwolf.
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Well I dont know about you Specialkay, but at $25 an hour with 20 hours ot you are making 1700 a week that is $88,000 a year for only 60 hours of work so that is pretty much in line with what Snowman said his guys are doing at UPS Freight. Not to shabby if I say so myself and they did not have to pay union dues, with that kind of money I would happily take the higher tax bracket. The buy out these guys got from BP was amazing depending on their years of service some of these guys got big cash. My wife got four months salary from them as part of her buyout package and at the time she had only been with them two years..
With all due respect. Timberwolf Last edited by Snowman7; 11-06-2010 at 12:40 AM.
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Location: Southern Ontario
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Sorry I should have been more clear Snowman. I was referring to guys that don't get OT. I'll work extra time too if I OT after 60 hours but I know some drivers do not and that's where they can lose out by going into a higher tax bracket with no OT pay.
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#28
After a certain point with over time it is like working for straight time due to the extra taxes you pay.
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: central Oregon
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Talked to a KAG driver last night and he said the pro union drivers are being starved out. The union can not regulate the work dispatched. The Colton yard has 25 trucks parked from the L.A. Basin from the loss of the ARCO/BP Business.
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