These log in problems lately are getting on my nerves...

I haul very heavy loads (140,000 lbs.) in the Rocky Mt. foothills on and off hwy, it's normal to have winter
driving conditions for 6 months so any mistakes I make are much more apparent and costly...

Momentum is your friend, the faster your climbing the icy hill, the higher the gear, witch produces less torque, torque breaks traction...

The other poster is wrong in suggesting you can't spin at the governed RPM. you can, and will when the torque demands more traction than is available, you will simply spin at the governed RPM. until you stop to chain up.

To run the engine at the governor you have to be in a much lower gear than you could be climbing in...

Much lower gear means more torque, witch requires more traction...

If you do feel your truck spin, don't panic, just get of the fuel and right back into it again softly, before you lose too much road speed requiring a downshift, witch would produce more torque, witch requires more traction...

If you do spinout climbing a hill, pop both buttons yellow and red, I think maybe this driver didn't ??

Typical northern B.C. highway

 

Kitty litter works like sand. Spread some out across the path your drivers need to run on, to get started when parked on iced over pavement.

Bleach, when poured over the drive tire treads, causes those treads to gain traction, enabling you to get started on ice, without chaining. A driver has to be careful with the bleach. To much bleach treatment is bad for the rubber used in the tire manufacture process.

Of course....these are items that are used in city driving, when a driver as to only deal with slick parking lot's, not while running on open road.

 

Colt...face it young man! Your just to "Old School", when it comes to driving on snow and ice covered roads in the mountains! Driver's that get their "Ice Road" education from pamphlets written by non-drivers or flatland drivers, or drivers whom are accustomed to driving on muddy terrain, are not going to believe an 'old school" driver, when it comes to climbing hills covered with packed snow or ice using half throttle and virtually "lugging" the truck up a grade.


Full throttle while driving on a road that is muddy works fine.....but you are correct in your description of how to handle the truck, when climbing snow packed or icey roads in the mountains. A higher gear and lugging the engine is absolutely the best manner in which to keep traction in the mountains during the winter.

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Of course........What the heck do I know! I live on the Gulf Coast!!!

 

that was sarcasm big boy, in response to Headborg's post

 

*sigh* Me sorry. *sigh* :smokin:

 

Colt, where did you read this greater story about slowing down, or changing gears, or...

You seem to have read a lot more into this than I wrote.

And, Fredog, kitty litter is a lovely traction aid!

Sorry, missed the 3rd set of posts.

Who's fixing this log in trouble?

 

Well I made the assumption that you would downshift to get into the proper gear to climb a hill without shifting and run the revs against the governor...


How else would you manage this without slowing down and downshifting ??

 

kitty litter doubles as a pee bottle. sneaky way to get rid of the liquid at night, too. ;-)

 

So far, so good...

Well, you were on a roll. Sorry, but this one does not play right. First year of driving? Weather gets bad, are you in for a nasty surprise. Or are you one of the guys with the double tanks running 17 and burning your way down through the snow at full throttle... at a quarter mile an hour? I have no idea how many of them I've passed going up a hill, and by the time they get to the top, my day is done and I'm a couple of hundred miles down the road, going to sleep at a truck stop.

With the engine rpm up against the governor, you won't realize if your drives have broken loose or not. Your first clue could well be finding that your drives have slid sideways, and once beyond on a 12 degree angle, you might also find yourself beyond the point of no return.

Reduce the torque on the drives by picking a higher gear than normal, and reduce the engine rpms. If the engine suddenly revs up, it means you've broken traction. You have about one second to back off on the throttle, then feather the throttle so you don't lose momentum, but not enough to break traction again.

Something else you might find out. If you're moving more than 10 mph, do not have the differential lock engaged. Under 10, it can be your true friend. But at speeds above 10, it can become a serious enemy.

And, just because some other driver is saying that "We're putting up a spray, we're ok", does not mean he knows what he's talking about. I've seen a layer of water on top of a half an inch of clear, solid ice. It's a surface you can't even stand on, and it's even more slick than ice with no water on it. The spray means nothing at all in many cases. Do not use that as an indicator. READ THE ROAD,and know what you're driving on.

 

I think more importantly is to SLOW SLOW SLOW down and take it easy!Have the "better be safe than sorry"mentality and with God's blessing you'll never be in trouble.This is my 3rd winter and this is the season where i will not take any risks beyond what i can do.Simple as that!