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Old 02-02-2008, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by allan5oh
It still produces more carbon dioxide.

But it produces less NOx and PM.
Me thinks you meant Carbon Monoxide. Carbon Dioxide is used to carbonate Coke and other soda.
OMG are you really that clueless? :shock:


Although the largest part of most combustion gases is relatively harmless nitrogen (N2), water vapor (H2O) (except with pure-carbon fuels), and carbon dioxide (CO2) (except with hydrogen as fuel), a relatively small part of it is undesirable noxious or toxic substances, such as carbon monoxide (CO), hydrocarbons, nitrogen oxides (NOx), partly unburnt fuel, and particulate matter.
Carbon dioxide is the gas they are trying to eliminate - it's the one that they claim is causing global warming. :roll:

That's just too funny. :lol:
 
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Ban Coke. It's causing Global Warming.
 
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Old 02-02-2008, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mack2
Ban Coke. It's causing Global Warming.
As long as I can keep my Dr. Pepper, I'm all for it.
 
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Originally Posted by Mack2
Ban Coke. It's causing Global Warming.
Ban Cows, they are ruining the Ozone layer.
 
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Just to clarify, the primary target of the diesel emissions rules is hazardous air pollution, not greenhouse gases. They're not even targeting CO2. Rank and Allan, you're right, CO2 levels will in fact be increased. I was merely speaking hypothetically. Just remember, the diesel emission rules are not meant to address Global Warming.

Rosty, what you say is the case in many instances, the market will solve the problem. That doesn't work in the case of public goods, such as public health. Laissez-faire does not work for all markets.
 
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Old 02-02-2008, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by no_worries
Just to clarify, the primary target of the diesel emissions rules is hazardous air pollution, not greenhouse gases. They're not even targeting CO2.
Not entirely correct. The emissions rules that changed our fuel from 500 ppm sulfur to 15 ppm sulfur were, in part, to reduce co2 emissions. Part of the reason that the government is requiring biodiesel mixes in some areas is specifically to reduce greenhouse gases.

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/climate/420f05001.htm

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/FTPROOT/environment/057306.pdf

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1127101930.htm

What I find interesting is that one regulation (the 15ppm sulfur content) reduces CO2 emissions, and another regulation (the 2007 engines) increases CO2 emissions. Seems they can't make up their mind. :lol:
 
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Nope, the reduction of sulfur was to protect the catalyst, and also to protect the particulate filter. Nothing to do with carbon dioxide. They also reduced zinc and sulfur in the oil.

Carbon dioxide is directly linked to fuel mileage, in fact it is extremely linear.

So to decrease carbon dioxide output, you have to increase fuel mileage.
 
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Old 02-02-2008, 07:11 PM
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allan & no_worries- I think you guys are right.

What I don't really understand is that some people actually introduce carbon dioxide into their grow rooms & greehouses to accelerate growth rates. In view of that, isn't it really a good thing to have more of it in the atmosphere because it will promote plants to grow more and process more gasses causing global warming out of the atmosphere?

And Steve is once again right as usual, carbon dioxide is what carbonates soft drinks. I think dry ice is just carbon dioxode in solid form. So we need to outlaw soft drinks, dry ice, all types of co/2 cartridges, sex, and beer if we want to save the planet.
 
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Originally Posted by LightsMultHorsepower
allan & no_worries- I think you guys are right.
Nobody asked you.

What I don't really understand is that some people actually introduce carbon dioxide into their grow rooms & greehouses to accelerate growth rates. In view of that, isn't it really a good thing to have more of it in the atmosphere because it will promote plants to grow more and process more gasses causing global warming out of the atmosphere?
You are an idiot.

And Steve is once again right as usual, carbon dioxide is what carbonates soft drinks.
This is just hilarious.

I think dry ice is just carbon dioxode in solid form.
It's debatable that you think at all.
 
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:49 PM
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Why should I, or anyone else on this forum, listen to some guy that thinks moving your fifth wheel will change the weight on your trailer axles?

If you can some pertinent, constructive comment on whatever is under discussion at the moment, please do so.

If all you can do is pathetically snipe & snark, then I think a moderator needs to step in.
 



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