From desk to own authority part 2

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Old 10-15-2007, 09:36 PM
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No Solo a business decision to net 100,000 from 300,000 gross or net 100,000 from 200,000 gross doesn't signify a hobby trucker. Some people would rather sit and wait for loads and make more per mile and run less than someone who runs many miles and makes less per mile. Neither one is a hobby trucker.

Steve has said that this is his only means of income so he cannot by definition be a hobby trucker. I don't have any particular love for Steve or problem with any of you guys. I guess I just don't understand how anyone who knows only what they read on a computer screen can presume to know Steve's financial situation or his motivations. I read the story and enjoy his writing style and don't really understand why others cannot leave it at that.
 
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mudpuddle
The funniest part of this entire thread is that the Rev presumes to somehow know whether Steve is sincere, whether Steve is making a profit, whether Steve is getting enough money for his services, or that Steve cares what the Rev thinks.
Sincere: When I smell BS, I call it out. Always have, always will.

Making a profit: Steve has admitted himself that he has no clue what he is making. Ignorance is bliss.

Getting enough money for his services: See above.

Cares what the Rev thinks: I couldn't care less about whether he cares what I think or not. I don't post in this thread for his benefit. But I'm glad you find it amusing.

3.30 per mile sounds great until you back out the contract unloader expense, The inordinate amount of time you spend in hotels or waiting for loads, the claims you have to pay, etc,etc. You preach about dollars per mile but at the end of the year you probably make about as much as someone running for less per mile.
You know what? You're absolutely right (except for the hotels part). I probably don't make more than he does, when all is said and done. I never claimed to. The difference, however, is that I'm running a hell of a lot less miles than he is to make it, so my equipment lasts longer, requires less variable expense, and will be worth far more when the time comes to get rid of it. That is called running smarter, not harder.

If I offered you two different jobs, which would you take? Job one pays $10.00 per hour, and you're going to be required to work 80 hours per week. You'll bring home $800 per week for your effort. Job two pays $18 per hour, but you're only going to have to work 40 hours per week, and you're going to bring home $720 per week for the effort. Is that extra $80 per week worth an additional 40 hours? Is it worth running your equipment into the ground (or the shop for the overhaul) just to earn what one is capable of earning by working a whole lot smarter? I'm not even talking about HHG. There are flatbedders on this board even who are pulling $3.00 per mile loads on a regular basis. I wouldn't consider working smart and maximizing my profits for the work I perform a "sacrifice".
 
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:06 PM
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My only point is this Rev. It is Steve's decision if he wants to do more miles for the same money and not have to deal with the outside expense and waiting that you deal with.

It is not your or my place to tell him he is wrong because he chooses to operate his business differently than you or I would.

Yes the truck will depreciate more, and yes it will get more wear and tear but there is no trucking judge who will bang his gavel at the end of the year and say yeah you both made seventy thousand but Steve I am taking thirty of yours because you worked a few more hours. At the end of the year after all expenses and depreciation are taken out and you get to the bottom line on the tax form that figure is all that matters. How you get there is your choice.


Oh and Scoe, I didn't see any insults in anything I or the Rev said. These conversations (even when they are contentious) are how people really learn about this business. People only learn the true nature of the business and find their direction in it by seeing all sides. I am only disagreeing with Rev and Solo because they seem to presume things they cannot know. We have had a civil discussion and it would be a shame to lock this thread over good information being discussed.

Now if we started calling each other names then lock away.
 
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:13 PM
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Would that be 40 hours shoveling poop vs 80 hours taste testing beer? I'll take the eighty. There's no simple cut and dried answer to any question Rev. :wink:
 
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Old 10-15-2007, 11:09 PM
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Hey Steve, are all your brokers paying you within 30 days? Care to post which ones are slow to fork over the money?
 
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Old 10-15-2007, 11:28 PM
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If I offered you two different jobs, which would you take? Job one pays $10.00 per hour, and you're going to be required to work 80 hours per week. You'll bring home $800 per week for your effort. Job two pays $18 per hour, but you're only going to have to work 40 hours per week, and you're going to bring home $720 per week for the effort. Is that extra $80 per week worth an additional 40 hours? Is it worth running your equipment into the ground (or the shop for the overhaul) just to earn what one is capable of earning by working a whole lot smarter? I'm not even talking about HHG. There are flatbedders on this board even who are pulling $3.00 per mile loads on a regular basis. I wouldn't consider working smart and maximizing my profits for the work I perform a "sacrifice".
I wouldn't take either job if I had to work for Rev.
 
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Old 10-15-2007, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mudpuddle
Would that be 40 hours shoveling poop vs 80 hours taste testing beer? I'll take the eighty. There's no simple cut and dried answer to any question Rev. :wink:

Good analogy. :lol: Whether Steve's averages and postings are true or not at least he doesn't come off as an A-hole or a show-off like the Rev does. At least not online anyway. :lol:
 
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mudpuddle
It is not your or my place to tell him he is wrong because he chooses to operate his business differently than you or I would.
Actually, it is my place to do so. This is a forum, where information, stories, and opinions are disseminated. This is the exact place to agree or disagree with him.

Oh and Scoe, I didn't see any insults in anything I or the Rev said.
No, the insults have really been coming from other places, like Steve, DD60, and others.
 
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by mudpuddle
It is not your or my place to tell him he is wrong because he chooses to operate his business differently than you or I would.
Actually, it is my place to do so. This is a forum, where information, stories, and opinions are disseminated. This is the exact place to agree or disagree with him.

Oh and Scoe, I didn't see any insults in anything I or the Rev said.
No, the insults have really been coming from other places, like Steve, DD60, and others.

If you read carefully,you will see that I have not made ANY insults.I just gave some friendly advice. :lol: Encouraging a shower is an insult?How?
You do the insulting all by yourself. Just like you I call something when I see it. You need to follow your own advice and not take the internet so seriously.
 
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One day the Rev and I may actually turn out to be very good friends. I enjoy a good debate and like it when people don't just roll over when confronted with another point of view.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
 




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