Here you go charged......
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by charged
Okay, so let's assume his break even is $1.30.
The fact is he is making money if he averages $1.31/mi
$0.01 per mile X 108,000 miles per year = $1080 per year for wages, $0.00 per year profit. Still sounds like you are trying to justify hauling cheap. If I were planning to enter the business I would have no idea the exact expenses I would incur. However, I could assume my expenses would be similar to what your are or similar to what my fathers are. I'm really not even sure what the definition of cheap freight is, but if cheap freight is less than the break even my father won't haul it unless it gets him to better freight. I absolutely know he will not deadhead over 100 miles unless the freight needs to be picked up now or the freight pays to cover the deadhead. Dad's probably not going to be collecting welfare anytime soon. He has rental property in three States. He just bought some property in WA where he'll be building a home to retire.
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Originally Posted by GMAN
You Dad should be getting at least $2/mile in the areas where you stated that he is running. I have been getting a lot of calls in those areas the last couple of weeks, in the $2/mile range, without any negotiating.
He doesn't post his truck on the boards he just calls or has me call or has mom call. He'll be between Decatur and Springfield IL on Tuesday so he'll be looking for some $2/mi freight. He doesn't like to tarp, can't haul steel coils, and prefers not to run hills. He also doesn't like short haul stuff. For example I know he will want to go from there to near the max of his radius because he doesn't like to wait for shippers to load. I report on what he gets and what he gets it for.
#23
I would not go to Florida for $2.30/mile. I am curious, though. You say that your Dad doesn't tarp, doesn't want to drive in hills, can't haul coils and doesn't want to haul short runs? Why is he pulling a flat bed? With so many restrictions, I am surprised that he is even in this business. I would say that at least 50% of the flat bed loads require a tarp.
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Originally Posted by GMAN
I would not go to Florida for $2.30/mile. I am curious, though. You say that your Dad doesn't tarp, doesn't want to drive in hills, can't haul coils and doesn't want to haul short runs? Why is he pulling a flat bed? With so many restrictions, I am surprised that he is even in this business. I would say that at least 50% of the flat bed loads require a tarp.
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Originally Posted by Red Clay Rambler
charged,
Why no coils, insurance restriction?
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Well I call BS on what some of you are saying...
Tarped loads generally pay more anyway and trying to get MORE for a tarped load is almost impossible. There are people who say they get more to tarp but that is BS most of the time. Also the going to FL deal....BS on over 2 bucks a mile. Some of you may be getting it NOW but a year ago you were not....I would NOT go to FL for less, but some on here have went for MUCH less than that. Even though the fuel is higher now than a year ago does not make a difference with FL. That should have still been at least 2 bucks a mile. Some of you need to practice what you preach.... :roll: tootie
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Originally Posted by charged
Originally Posted by Red Clay Rambler
charged,
Why no coils, insurance restriction? I didn't think about Progressive restricting him to haul coils. That makes sense. From what others have posted I would think that they would eliminate that restriction after a year. Coils can be tricky. They need extra care when securing them. I would try to have someone show me how to properly chain them down before getting involved with them. To tell you the truth, coils haven't been paying that much for a while. They have done well in some areas, but are still nothing to brag about. Now is a time to start making contacts and establishing relationships. Your Dad is in a good position to get some regular runs and work with the same people. He might even get a dedicated run. A few years ago I had a driver on a regular run coming out of Chicago going to Birmingham and back again. It paid very well. The problem was with the driver. He lived in south Georgia and it was too much of a hassle to get him home along with the extra expense. If I had someone living close to the travel lane, it would have been perfect.
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Originally Posted by GMAN
Originally Posted by charged
Originally Posted by Red Clay Rambler
charged,
Why no coils, insurance restriction? I didn't think about Progressive restricting him to haul coils. That makes sense. From what others have posted I would think that they would eliminate that restriction after a year. Coils can be tricky. They need extra care when securing them. I would try to have someone show me how to properly chain them down before getting involved with them. To tell you the truth, coils haven't been paying that much for a while. They have done well in some areas, but are still nothing to brag about. Now is a time to start making contacts and establishing relationships. Your Dad is in a good position to get some regular runs and work with the same people. He might even get a dedicated run. A few years ago I had a driver on a regular run coming out of Chicago going to Birmingham and back again. It paid very well. The problem was with the driver. He lived in south Georgia and it was too much of a hassle to get him home along with the extra expense. If I had someone living close to the travel lane, it would have been perfect.
#30
Those coil tarps are great if you haul a lot of them. He could also buy a side kit. If you haul a lot of steel you can't beat a side kit. When I regularly pulled it, I rarely pulled the kit down. I have had a couple of drivers who preferred to keep it down and tarp. There are some good paying loads which require side kits. It can save a lot of tarp time.
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