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I know of at least 2 maybe 3 that would loose theirs immediatly.
 
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Originally Posted by LightsChromeHorsepower
Why can't we all act like adults and conduct a reasoned discussion of the subject at hand?

Why do some people, who have no first-hand knowledge of whatever subject is being discussed, insist on jumping in with obviously uninformed comments and wildly inflamatory personal attacks.

It seems to be the same people doing it on almost every thread I read.

I think the FMCSA should develop a test of emotional maturity as a requirement for obtaining a CDL. It would thin the driver ranks considerably and make our highways safer.[/i][/u]
And you've added to the topic in what way?
 
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Old 02-03-2008, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ironeagle2006
I know of at least 2 maybe 3 that would loose theirs immediatly.
Well maybe.. but they could always go play some asinine unrealistic computer game to stay in touch... :roll:
 
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Old 02-03-2008, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by LightsChromeHorsepower
Why can't we all act like adults and conduct a reasoned discussion of the subject at hand?

Why do some people, who have no first-hand knowledge of whatever subject is being discussed, insist on jumping in with obviously uninformed comments and wildly inflamatory personal attacks.

It seems to be the same people doing it on almost every thread I read.

I think the FMCSA should develop a test of emotional maturity as a requirement for obtaining a CDL. It would thin the driver ranks considerably and make our highways safer.[/i][/u]
And you've added to the topic in what way?
yea, shame on you for acting like a grownup
 
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Old 02-03-2008, 09:48 PM
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Hey Rev at least I am still able to play TRUKZ unlike YOU.

You have completed your route to Rennes on time. You collected $1683.23 of which Canadian Freightways collected $151.49 from that total to leave you with a total collection of $1531.74. Your driver rating is now 2.54. You may start a new route at this time or view your driver profile for more details.

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Wow - you're able to play a game. Someone give that man a sticker.
 
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:32 PM
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You have E so you need to get off this sight. Here goes the discrimination.

I have spent a lot of time and research looking for such drivers. It is alarming how many are doing this. They have all told me the same things. "Discrimination, total blanket denial. It needs to be individualized." I by no means indorse any of these drivers that are breaking the law. Some had truck payments to make, some told me it was just the love of the road. I have spoke with others that have intrastate waivers and they tell me the same things. Some are driving roads that are more dangerous now since the can't leave the state.
The majority of these drivers were male and owner operators. A lot of them just had nocturnal seizures. None of them told the neurologist that they are truck drivers, or were still driving. Some of them only suffered one seizure and still chose to go on AED's. I know some were just telling a bunch of bs. The ones that did not know much of the terms or lingo of trucking were bs. The drivers that had no clue about epilepsy were fibbing about having it. Or worse, they had seizures and are driving not understanding epilepsy.
If preventing someone whom is prone to seizures, from driving a CMV saves only one person from injury, let alone death, then the DOT should damned well prevent everybody whom has a diagnosed disease,which causes or poses the risk of, seizures, from driving trucks, flying airplanes, or controling ships and freight trains.

Like the example of the "Head" of a nuclear power plant, those people have the ability to learn a profession that does not endanger the lives of any individual.

Period.


Ooooooooh..Wait a second! Forgive that rant up there...The DOT already does prevent those people from doing those activities!

Yea the FMCSA, does try to keep these drivers off the road. Need to read what other regulations they want to put in. Oh yea, it will all be good, it will save lives. It will start to make it more difficult to pass a DOT physical, but that is good for us all, drivers or not.
I have been in a lot of driver chat rooms on these issues. A lot of drivers just clearly don't understand epilepsy and that is understandable. But this sight is the worst on not caring about more regulations. I bet the ones in here will cry the most when they are hit with one of the new proposed regulations.

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Fine then lets apply that logic to HBP, Sleep Apnea any and all Mental Illnesses and also being Overweight. With teh HBP you can not take any meds to keep it down and also apply it to High Cholestorol and also can not wear glasses or contacts. Basically to use your logic then Orangetx everyone driving a truck would be in perfect health then. Since HBP can cause you to have a Heart attack or stroke and that causes you to pass out also ban any Diabetics then since they get to low or High they will pass out then.



What does this subject/thread have do with us O/O's ???

It should be moved to the comedy section.....

Wow, just what I was talking about. The MRB is talking about stricter regulations that will hit most of us. Drivers that are driving safely now with safe medical conditions will be band. Oh yea, we will all be safer[/quote]

As far as "stricter" regulations go..so what if the FMCSA rolls regulatory requirements back. When I had my very first DOT physical(1979), diabetics were totally banned. Now diabetics can get a "waiver" and drive.

Just for kicks and giggles, I went to the FMCSA website, and pulled up these portions of the physical disqualifications, from section 391.41.

From FMCSA website; section 394.41(b)

Has no current clinical diagnosis of myocardial infarction, angina pectoris, coronary insufficiency, thrombosis, or any other cardiovascular disease of a variety known to be accompanied by syncope, dyspnea, collapse, or congestive cardiac failure;

[Medical Advisory Criteria]

(b)(5) Has no established medical history or clinical diagnosis of a respiratory dysfunction likely to interfere with his/her ability to control and drive a commercial motor vehicle safely;

[Medical Advisory Criteria]

(b)(6) Has no current clinical diagnosis of high blood pressure likely to interfere with his/her ability to operate a commercial motor vehicle safely;

[Medical Advisory Criteria]

(b)(7) Has no established medical history or clinical diagnosis of rheumatic, arthritic, orthopedic, muscular, neuromuscular, or vascular disease which interferes with his/her ability to control and operate a commercial motor vehicle safely;

[Medical Advisory Criteria]

(b)(8) Has no established medical history or clinical diagnosis of epilepsy or any other condition which is likely to cause loss of consciousness or any loss of ability to control a commercial motor vehicle;

[Medical Advisory Criteria]

(b)(9) Has no mental, nervous, organic, or functional disease or psychiatric disorder likely to interfere with his/her ability to drive a commercial motor vehicle safely;

[Medical Advisory Criteria]

(b)(10) Has distant visual acuity of at least 20/40 (Snellen) in each eye without corrective lenses or visual acuity separately corrected to 20/40 (Snellen) or better with corrective lenses, distant binocular acuity of at least 20/40 (Snellen) in both eyes with or without corrective lenses, field of vision of at least 70° in the horizontal meridian in each eye, and the ability to recognize the colors of traffic signals and devices showing standard red, green, and amber;

[Medical Advisory Criteria]

(b)(11) First perceives a forced whispered voice in the better ear at not less than 5 feet with or without the use of a hearing aid or, if tested by use of an audiometric device, does not have an average hearing loss in the better ear greater than 40 decibels at 500 Hz, 1,000 Hz, and 2,000 Hz with or without a hearing aid when the audiometric device is calibrated to American National Standard (formerly ASA Standard) Z24.5-1951;

Has no current clinical diagnosis of myocardial infarction, angina pectoris, coronary insufficiency, thrombosis, or any other cardiovascular disease of a variety known to be accompanied by syncope, dyspnea, collapse, or congestive cardiac failure;

[Medical Advisory Criteria]

(b)(5) Has no established medical history or clinical diagnosis of a respiratory dysfunction likely to interfere with his/her ability to control and drive a commercial motor vehicle safely;

[Medical Advisory Criteria]

(b)(6) Has no current clinical diagnosis of high blood pressure likely to interfere with his/her ability to operate a commercial motor vehicle safely;

[Medical Advisory Criteria]

(b)(7) Has no established medical history or clinical diagnosis of rheumatic, arthritic, orthopedic, muscular, neuromuscular, or vascular disease which interferes with his/her ability to control and operate a commercial motor vehicle safely;

[Medical Advisory Criteria]

(b)(8) Has no established medical history or clinical diagnosis of epilepsy or any other condition which is likely to cause loss of consciousness or any loss of ability to control a commercial motor vehicle;

[Medical Advisory Criteria]

(b)(9) Has no mental, nervous, organic, or functional disease or psychiatric disorder likely to interfere with his/her ability to drive a commercial motor vehicle safely;

[Medical Advisory Criteria]

(b)(10) Has distant visual acuity of at least 20/40 (Snellen) in each eye without corrective lenses or visual acuity separately corrected to 20/40 (Snellen) or better with corrective lenses, distant binocular acuity of at least 20/40 (Snellen) in both eyes with or without corrective lenses, field of vision of at least 70° in the horizontal meridian in each eye, and the ability to recognize the colors of traffic signals and devices showing standard red, green, and amber;

[Medical Advisory Criteria]

(b)(11) First perceives a forced whispered voice in the better ear at not less than 5 feet with or without the use of a hearing aid or, if tested by use of an audiometric device, does not have an average hearing loss in the better ear greater than 40 decibels at 500 Hz, 1,000 Hz, and 2,000 Hz with or without a hearing aid when the audiometric device is calibrated to American National Standard (formerly ASA Standard) Z24.5-1951;

Now...as for "band".

Is that as in "rock & roll band", "string quartet band", "wind instruments band" or "marching band" ??

Or did you mean "banned"...as in..."Not allowed'?????

Now then...I am a heavy guy. I weigh 280 pounds, and yes..I know I need to lose at least 80 of that. However..I am still, as of this afternoon, at a BP level of 129/82. That was after I unloaded 6 dirty hoses from the hose tray of the trailer I was dropping, then cranking the trailer off the fifth wheel to drop it, and walking into the main building, about 200 yards, to get my BP checked.
I am not "hypoglycemic" or "hyperglycemic". Diabetes is not something that has ever been diagnosed in my family, on either side. 90% of my cousins work in the airline industry, and have bi-annual physicals, just like truck drivers get. Most of my aunts and uncles also worked in the airline industry. However...heart disease is a factor on both sides of my family. All this..as a qualifier to"rebutt" you.

The reason I bring up diabetes?
In the last three weeks, I have listened to three different trainers (in restaurants), from 3 different company's, complain to the individual they were training, about the ridiculousness of having to go have a physical review, just because they have diabetes. Two of those complainers out weighed me by well over 100 pounds. One, had a plate on the table in fron of him, when I walked in and sat down across from them, and consumed 3 more plates from the "buff", while I ordered from the menu, waited for my meal, then consumed my order.

Last night, while having dinner, a driver walked in, whom was at least 450 pounds. He was wearing shorts, so that the sores on his legs, which are severely swollen from his diabetic condition, were visible, his face was "rosey" in color, from his walk into the building from the truck....and he proceeded to complain, because the restaurant did not have a "Buffet".

15 years ago, someone in that condition, would not have been given medical clearance to drive a truck.

Ok..my rant on medical fitness is over.
 
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15 years ago they also would not even ahve been ALIVE also. Nowadays medical science is so far ahead of the regulations it is sad. With Vorad and the new lane warning equipment whats to say mono visions do not scream to drive Interstate next. I now of multiple people who at one time or another were on antidrepassants yet they can drive OTR some of them are Manic depressive and they are out there they are a bigger threat since they can go off at any time.
 
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Originally Posted by ironeagle2006
15 years ago they also would not even ahve been ALIVE also. Nowadays medical science is so far ahead of the regulations it is sad. With Vorad and the new lane warning equipment whats to say mono visions do not scream to drive Interstate next. I now of multiple people who at one time or another were on antidrepassants yet they can drive OTR some of them are Manic depressive and they are out there they are a bigger threat since they can go off at any time.
 
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Old 02-04-2008, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ironeagle2006
15 years ago they also would not even ahve been ALIVE also. Nowadays medical science is so far ahead of the regulations it is sad. With Vorad and the new lane warning equipment whats to say mono visions do not scream to drive Interstate next. I now of multiple people who at one time or another were on antidrepassants yet they can drive OTR some of them are Manic depressive and they are out there they are a bigger threat since they can go off at any time.

Yup....yer right there...yup.


Wait..hold that thought one second..................here it is!!! I knew the depression was covered too !!!!

b)(9) Has no mental, nervous, organic, or functional disease or psychiatric disorder likely to interfere with his/her ability to drive a commercial motor vehicle safely;

Vorad...there's a good feature on a truck. One more thing to distract the driver from his or her job...which is to drive the truck, giving all due attention to the road and traffic conditions.

Heck...one day soon...a healthy individual will not be needed to move freight in this country...science will make us irrelivant!!!
 
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