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llc
hey i bought a truck was put in my name.the question is when i form my llc do i have to retitle truck in the company name.and change insurance in the llc name also.
#3
Not true at all. Just lease yourself and your truck to your LLC. Write up a simple O/O lease agreement leasing you to your LLC and you're good to go.
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And the benefit of that would be what? Under that scenario, the bulk of the expenses related to the truck must be accounted for on the individual's tax return. Plus, such "lease backs" are one of the IRS red flags. The tax filings for the complete operation now become much more complicated and the benefit is what? Saving a couple hundred bucks for a title transfer and registration. Of course, it does reinforce the fact that an LLC is virtually pointless in this situation. Stick to a sole proprietor.
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And the benefit of that would be what? Under that scenario, the bulk of the expenses related to the truck must be accounted for on the individual's tax return. Plus, such "lease backs" are one of the IRS red flags. The tax filings for the complete operation now become much more complicated and the benefit is what? Saving a couple hundred bucks for a title transfer and registration. Of course, it does reinforce the fact that an LLC is virtually pointless in this situation. Stick to a sole proprietor.
It makes sense to have the LLC for a variety of reasons, especially if you ever plan on expanding your business to include more than just you driving your one truck. I’ve never heard of leasing yourself and your truck to your own LLC being a red flag to the IRS. I would think it is pretty common practice actually. I owned my truck long before I ever formed an LLC and got my own Authority. I plan on expanding when the opportunity presents itself. It made sense for me to avoid the hassle of retitling and re-plating my truck by leasing it on. Many corporate officers lease land or buildings to companies they are the head of. How is me leasing my truck to my LLC any different?
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Assuming that this is a single member LLC (or SMLLC as the IRS refers to it) you simply file the LLC's revenue and expenses on your personal Form 1040 with Schedule C. It is one of the biggest reasons why many people choose a sole proprietor LLC instead of an S-corp... simplicity of paperwork and tax filings is a wonderful thing.
If it is a multi-member LLC, then you’d need to file Form 1065 (U.S. Return of Partnership Income) and Schedule K-1 (Partner's Share of Income, Credits, Deductions, etc. (For Partner's Use Only).
I’ve never heard of leasing yourself and your truck to your own LLC being a red flag to the IRS. I would think it is pretty common practice actually.
#7
I would not worry too much about being audited. Take your deductions, keep records to support them and don 't worry about an audit. I would never fail to take a deduction based upon the threat of an audit. I keep an office at home and will continue to take the deduction. I have gone through a couple of audits and have never had them question the home office deduction. It is very easy for me to prove that I use that portion of my home as an office. I have a desk, file cabinets and other things associated with running an office. I will take any and all deductions that I am entitled. If they were to question it then they can come to the house and I will show them my office. I have nearly always had an office at home.
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That wasn't my point. The point was a strategy being commonly utilized and being a red flag are not mutually exclusive. Of course you should take a legitimate deduction, even if it is more closely scrutinized. For that matter, given the low audit rate, you might as well take illegitimate deductions as well. However, it doesn't make sense to take such action when the benefit is minimal.
We're talking about a new title and registration and a clerical change on insurance. Really, what are we talking? A couple hundred bucks and an hour's time? And to avoid that we're talking about adding needless layers to taxation, insurance, and liability? For what?
#9
I would lease the truck to your LLC or corporation, if you decide that is the way you want to go. Having a formal structure for your company is a great way to keep business and personal separate. When you have a proprietorship it can blur the lines of distinction.
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