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Old 10-22-2006, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by yoopr
Kind of hard when he first came on here Belittling the Intelligence of pretty much the Entire Forum.
Little did he know that there's some Very intelligent truck drivers on here who actually know the Business.
What do you mean "when he first came on here"?

He still does it!
One day soon Steve is going to come back and say he was wrong about somethings. He is going to get some real world experience quick dealing with the DOT officers that are not nice as the ones near his house, shippers/brokers that are slow payers, other drivers that are not as nice as you guys (ROFLMAO ), forklift drivers that just want to f___ with a trucker, road service companies that realize they have a "live one". I admire the guy and I hope that he succeeds, looks like he has left no stone unturned, but I know he will keep us informed. He cant belittle "us", we have to feel belittled. Chew me out if you like, intelligence means nothing in this business. Making a profit does and I know some guys that are real morons, but they have spouses or people working for them that make them successful.
 
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Old 10-23-2006, 12:07 AM
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Rev.Vassago wrote:

Your "pretrip done and performed satisfactory" will not cut the mustard. You have to have a checkoff list for each of the items that are required for a pretrip.
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§396.11 Driver vehicle inspection report(s).

(a) Report required. Every motor carrier shall require its drivers to report, and every driver shall prepare a report in writing at the completion of each day's work on each vehicle operated and the report shall cover at least the following parts and accessories:

Service brakes including trailer brake connections

Parking (hand) brake

Steering mechanism

Lighting devices and reflectors

Tires

Horn

Windshield wipers

Rear vision mirrors

Coupling devices

Wheels and rims

Emergency equipment

(b) Report content. The report shall identify the vehicle and list any defect or deficiency discovered by or reported to the driver which would affect the safety of operation of the vehicle or result in its mechanical breakdown. If no defect or deficiency is discovered by or reported to the driver, the report shall so indicate. In all instances, the driver shall sign the report. On two-driver operations, only one driver needs to sign the driver vehicle inspection report, provided both drivers agree as to the defects or deficiencies identified. If a driver operates more than one vehicle during the day, a report shall be prepared for each vehicle operated.
Rev. Your first statement is not true, and the requirements by the DOT does not say you have to have a check of list on your log of every item required to be inspected. JJ Keller sells alot of log books to trucking companys big and small, they have different ones some with check lists and some with out, my company uses one that shows the truck and trailer number and you mark the box if any defects were found and list them or mark the box if no defects were found and sign it.

I think JJ Keller has investigated and nows what the requirements is of the DOT alittle more then you do Rev. Practice what you preach! :lol:
 
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Old 10-23-2006, 12:12 AM
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What you are saying and what the Rev. is saying are one and the Same. Some Logs have everything to be checked for Pre-Trip and each one has to be checked. The one you're talking about is basically saying the same thing in that each and every item has ben checked but you only have to check the Box.
 
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Old 10-23-2006, 12:22 AM
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yoopr wrote:
What you are saying and what the Rev. is saying are one and the Same.
You and Rev. must of went to the same school. Watch closley,

Rev wrote:
Your "pretrip done and performed satisfactory" will not cut the mustard. You have to have a checkoff list for each of the items that are required for a pretrip.
He is saying you are required to have a check off list of all the items that are required for a pretrip.

What I am saying is you do not, all you need is to say you performed a pretrip or postrip inspection every 24 hour period. You mark one box if you have inspected your equipment and found no defects or you mark the seconed box that says you inspected your equipment and you found the follwing items that need repair and list those items, then you sign the inspection. There is no requirement for a grocery list where you go down and check each item.

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Old 10-23-2006, 12:34 AM
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I think some of you are just jealous that someone can go out and buy a truck and trailer pay cash for it, take their time investigate all the rules and regulations, get the proper authority, permits and registration. Then will be able to pick and choose the freight, don't have to worry about hauling cheap freight, does not have to work himself to death either. Does not have to pay someone 30% for a lease and some dispatcher telling him to go,go,go.

Plain and simple your Jealous so you are going to give him hell and talk crap. You guys better listen up, Steve might be able to teach you yo-yo's a thing or to about buisness and saving money. :lol:

I have a friend of mine who is an owner operator, never been anything else. Did not inherit any money, did not have a .com job, he is just a hard working owner operator. Saves his money and buys a new truck every five years and pays cash for it. Their is not very many who can do that.
 
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Old 10-23-2006, 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Big John
He is saying you are required to have a check off list of all the items that are required for a pretrip.

What I am saying is you do not, all you need is to say you performed a pretrip or postrip inspection every 24 hour period. You mark one box if you have inspected your equipment and found no defects or you mark the seconed box that says you inspected your equipment and you found the follwing items that need repair and list those items, then you sign the inspection. There is no requirement for a grocery list where you go down and check each item.

Simple!
The regs say differently:

§396.11 Driver vehicle inspection report(s).

(a) Report required. Every motor carrier shall require its drivers to report, and every driver shall prepare a report in writing at the completion of each day's work on each vehicle operated and the report shall cover at least the following parts and accessories:
Having your signature stating you did the pretrip is NOT a report that covers all the parts and accessories.

Service brakes including trailer brake connections

Parking (hand) brake

Steering mechanism

Lighting devices and reflectors

Tires

Horn

Windshield wipers

Rear vision mirrors

Coupling devices

Wheels and rims

Emergency equipment

(b) Report content. The report shall identify the vehicle and list any defect or deficiency discovered by or reported to the driver which would affect the safety of operation of the vehicle or result in its mechanical breakdown. If no defect or deficiency is discovered by or reported to the driver, the report shall so indicate. In all instances, the driver shall sign the report. On two-driver operations, only one driver needs to sign the driver vehicle inspection report, provided both drivers agree as to the defects or deficiencies identified. If a driver operates more than one vehicle during the day, a report shall be prepared for each vehicle operated.
Originally Posted by Big John
JJ Keller sells alot of log books to trucking companys big and small, they have different ones some with check lists and some with out, my company uses one that shows the truck and trailer number and you mark the box if any defects were found and list them or mark the box if no defects were found and sign it.
You are absolutely right that JJ Keller sells log books without the inspection report attached. They also sell the inspection report without the log book attached. I suppose by your arguement, you could just fill out the inspection report, and ignore the log book, as it isn't attached. :roll:

JJ Keller inspection reports

From their website:

Detailed Driver's Vehicle Inspection Reports
Helps you satisfy DOT vehicle inspection regulations 49 CFR §396.11 and 396.13.
 
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Old 10-23-2006, 03:07 AM
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ok i read part of the first page and understood some guy bought a truck paid for and drove it home and he is on cloud nine. so i skip to the last page cause i dont have an hour to sit here and read tonite and read

" think some of you are just jealous that someone can go out and buy a truck and trailer pay cash for it, take their time investigate all the rules and regulations, get the proper authority, permits and registration. Then will be able to pick and choose the freight, don't have to worry about hauling cheap freight, does not have to work himself to death either. Does not have to pay someone 30% for a lease and some dispatcher telling him to go,go,go.

Plain and simple your Jealous so you are going to give him hell and talk crap. You guys better listen up, Steve might be able to teach you yo-yo's a thing or to about buisness and saving money.

I have a friend of mine who is an owner operator, never been anything else. Did not inherit any money, did not have a .com job, he is just a hard working owner operator. Saves his money and buys a new truck every five years and pays cash for it. Their is not very many who can do that."


what the hell happened here? can some one sum it up for me so i dont earn a phd reading thins thread? i would like to see what went wrong so i dont do the same thing.
 
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ok i read part of the first page and understood some guy bought a truck paid for and drove it home and he is on cloud nine. so i skip to the last page cause i dont have an hour to sit here and read tonite and read
Some of these guys are jealous because Steve saved his money over the years as a computer geek making six digit salary and he is bored so he went to truck driving school, graduated, bought a truck and flatbed got his own authority and plans to go trucking and he is starting out debt free. He is doing it the rite way and proablly learned from the faliures of some of these yo yo's on this forum. Look at the sucess of Knight Transportation, they started out debt free, cashed in their Swift stock and went trucking. We might see a fleet of Steve Booth trucks some day.

You need to read it, its very intresting. It won't take you an hour, I did it in 10 minutes, just skip Rev.Vassago posts. :lol:
 
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Old 10-23-2006, 04:35 AM
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[quote="Big John"]
It won't take you an hour, I did it in 10 minutes, just skip Rev.Vassago posts. :lol:

thanks i will. his situation sounds like mine. i also bought a truck debt free. and got my own plates and insurance. but my truck is old one and i didnt make six dights a year.
 
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Yeah-we're Jealous :roll: :P :P
Most of us saved and Purchased our trucks.
Funny that you mention TWICE how Jealous we are :P
 
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