stiffer broker regulations in put please
#11
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Originally Posted by rlj19
so maybe it should be the broker schools that are regulated ? not the brokers ?
Does this sound like something you can accomplish? If not, then you need to find another bandwagon to jump on. If you arent the solution, you must be the problem.
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no need to get nasty just ask a question to see how the trucking community felt.....The bandwagon would help the o/o not me ..
you guys are all the same you compline about brokers ...but find fault with thoes tring to help you you compline about low freight ........ I will shut up now ...just stop compling about brokers and low freight on this board and others .. stop crying .... we shut' em down in 72 but truckers had back bone then and a power voice called the TEAMSTERS.......
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Originally Posted by rlj19
no need to get nasty just ask a question to see how the trucking community felt.....The bandwagon would help the o/o not me ..
you guys are all the same you compline about brokers ...but find fault with thoes tring to help you you compline about low freight ........ I will shut up now ...just stop compling about brokers and low freight on this board and others .. stop crying .... we shut' em down in 72 but truckers had back bone then and a power voice called the TEAMSTERS....... Again, I'm not trying to berate you, just offering you a challenge. Most of us truckers would be happy with a broker that could just be honest and hit a few of those points I mentioned. Welcome to the O/O Forum.
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Originally Posted by SteveBooth
That's interesting LOAD IT. What good is the bond then?
#15
Originally Posted by rlj19
no need to get nasty just ask a question to see how the trucking community felt.....The bandwagon would help the o/o not me ..
you guys are all the same you compline about brokers ...but find fault with thoes tring to help you you compline about low freight ........ I will shut up now ...just stop compling about brokers and low freight on this board and others .. stop crying .... we shut' em down in 72 but truckers had back bone then and a power voice called the TEAMSTERS....... I think we are blaming the wrong people for cheap freight. Some like to blame the brokers, and there is some validity to that complaint. However, the main reason freight rates are cheap is due to carriers and owner operators hauling cheap freight. I have had brokers and shippers both tell me there is no reason for them to pay more when carriers will haul it for a cheap rate. They have a valid point. There aren't enough owner operators who are willing to shut down to make a difference. Keep in mind that an owner operator is a businessman, not a driver. Teamsters represent drivers not business owners. There are too many poor businessmen who haul cheap freight. They would rather keep moving at a loss than wait for a load that would pay enough to make a decent profit. They would rather drive than take the time to check out a broker or shipper to see that they can get their money once a load is delivered. Sometimes it is better to take a few hours or a day to take care of business. I don't see the point in hauling a load that you don't know whether you will be paid. You cannot regulate people to be good businessmen. Companies lose money all the time on bad debt. Those who want to keep those loses to a minimum check companies out before extending credit to them. When you allow a broker to pay you in 30 days you are extending them credit. Banks and businesses who extend credit do so only after they check references. When was the last time you received a loan where they didn't ask for references and checked you out? Being a carrier and extending credit is no different. We are each responsible for our success or failure.
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Originally Posted by GMAN
Originally Posted by rlj19
no need to get nasty just ask a question to see how the trucking community felt.....The bandwagon would help the o/o not me ..
you guys are all the same you compline about brokers ...but find fault with thoes tring to help you you compline about low freight ........ I will shut up now ...just stop compling about brokers and low freight on this board and others .. stop crying .... we shut' em down in 72 but truckers had back bone then and a power voice called the TEAMSTERS....... I think we are blaming the wrong people for cheap freight. Some like to blame the brokers, and there is some validity to that complaint. However, the main reason freight rates are cheap is due to carriers and owner operators hauling cheap freight. I have had brokers and shippers both tell me there is no reason for them to pay more when carriers will haul it for a cheap rate. They have a valid point. There aren't enough owner operators who are willing to shut down to make a difference. Keep in mind that an owner operator is a businessman, not a driver. Teamsters represent drivers not business owners. There are too many poor businessmen who haul cheap freight. They would rather keep moving at a loss than wait for a load that would pay enough to make a decent profit. They would rather drive than take the time to check out a broker or shipper to see that they can get their money once a load is delivered. Sometimes it is better to take a few hours or a day to take care of business. I don't see the point in hauling a load that you don't know whether you will be paid. You cannot regulate people to be good businessmen. Companies lose money all the time on bad debt. Those who want to keep those loses to a minimum check companies out before extending credit to them. When you allow a broker to pay you in 30 days you are extending them credit. Banks and businesses who extend credit do so only after they check references. When was the last time you received a loan where they didn't ask for references and checked you out? Being a carrier and extending credit is no different. We are each responsible for our success or failure. Well said Gman. ALWAYS check out anyone who you plan to haul for. You can still book the load and than check them out before sending the broker your info and signing a rate confirmation. BTW Mike,I may owe you 2 steak dinners now. The first offer expired. :lol: Are you gonna run thru the longhorn anytime soon?
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#18
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Originally Posted by LOAD IT
The shipper says that broker was your agent Mr Carrier, not mine, so we arent paying.
IF all that checks out than go for it, sign the stuff (making sure you cross out and initial anything that says broker is acting as agent for carrier) and send it all back to them
#19
If the broker is acting as an agent for the carrier, then there should be complete disclosure of all funds. In fact, if the broker is an agent then it should be up to the carrier to establish an acceptable level of compensation for the broker. In addition, if the broker is an agent for the carrier, then there should be no need to have a back solicitation clause in the agreement.
#20
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Originally Posted by person
Originally Posted by LOAD IT
The shipper says that broker was your agent Mr Carrier, not mine, so we arent paying.
IF all that checks out than go for it, sign the stuff (making sure you cross out and initial anything that says broker is acting as agent for carrier) and send it all back to them
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