Well I made it out
#32
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North East
Posts: 1,199
Actually my plan was to lease on to CRST Malone flatbed, and I got to talking with the individual and he pointed out, which is true, that if I got paid 75% of the load which is what they paid, then I'd be paying a hell of a lot more then $7200 a year. I forget the figures we went with but figure if I grossed $100,000 a year, well that's $25,000 right there I'd be paying CRST. :Quote
Keep in mind that CRST Malone will do a lot more paper work for you and they take care of collections. Your dispatcher gets paid whether you get a load or not. Something to consider. If you're happy with the arrangement then that's all that matters.
#33
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,154
You'll be happy with the Wabash. Every manufacturer has their little quirks and features that are "exclusive" but when it comes right down to it, they're all pretty similar. I live in CA but I used to do a lot in FL. But when the time comes I may get those names from you anyway. I'll go anywhere to save a few thousand $$.
#34
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 22
Originally Posted by geomon
Glockboyz...what service did you use to pull up those loads?
Thanks
#35
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: California...yup beautifull Hollywood just over the hill
Posts: 569
Originally Posted by merrick4
Thank you Steve and GMAN. Steve if you go back and read over your orignal posts and now read what you write, well it's amazing. You seem to have reached a comfort level. Me I feel like a fish out of water, but I know in time that comfort level will come.
I do want to ask a queston, how do you send your bills out? I don't see any mailboxes at these truck stops? Welcome to the fish pond...I feel like a little guppy sometimes trying to keep getting swallowed up by the big boys, but I have made enough to keep myself solvent for next year so far (even with all my bone-head mistakes too numorous to mention)...even barring a big emergrncy like seizing an engine :-p
#37
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,095
Originally Posted by Bigmon
Keep in mind that CRST Malone will do a lot more paper work for you and they take care of collections. Your dispatcher gets paid whether you get a load or not. Something to consider. If you're happy with the arrangement then that's all that matters.
I appreciate the comment though. I will say this frequently, I appreciate all comments, whether negative or positive cause this is not personal. Besides as I don't know any of you, it's kind of silly to be arguing on a computer with strangers. Anyway, I'm on my next assignment. At first blush it looked good, but I'm not so sure. The dispatcher has been doing this for many years but he was never a driver (the owner was) and I think that one needs to be a driver to understand a lot. Don't get me wrong I'm not bad mouthing him cause I don't know him enough yet. Well let me just tell you the load and you see for yourself. It was a load picking up in Corruna, IN and going to Laurel, De. I'm not sure about all that practical miles, or trucker miles but I just put in into my GPS program and it came out to 660 miles. It was a flat rate of $1350 which was about a little over $2.00 a mile. Also it was just cardboard boxes so it was light. However I had to deadhead 180 miles to get there and then when I put it in my program and looked on the map I saw I had to run a lot of toll roads and especially the Penn. turnpike which is costly. That's what I meant about the dispatcher not being a driver, he doesn't know about tolls etc. So I avoided the tolls and got down to 70 and then into W. Virginia and over to Maryland onto 68 so that added to the miles and also that I68 is steep. So it ended up total about 900 miles so that brought it down to $1.50 a mile. (By the way, when you guys get a quote from a broker and they tell you say $1.50 a mile, does that always include deadhead or is that usually left out?) The good thing was that there was no wait at the shipper and I was worried about State Road 30 in Ohio to avoid the tolls but I liked that road. Another problem is I go wicked slow. I mean like 55 to 60 so things take longer though I'm getting good fuel mileage. Anyway I also had to pickup at the same place I was dropping off the cardboard. I'm to get a load of Watermelon and it's going back to detroit. That is a distance of 617 miles at $800 and obviously no deadhead. That comes to $1.29 a mile and puts me back in a good area. The problem is 617 miles in on toll roads so it's more like 656 miles and back with a heavy load on that steep I68. I asked the dispatcher why so low on the melons that shouldn't that pay more that the cardboard? He said yes, but he was just seeing $2100 dollars for the weekend and back in a good area. Actually after fuel this weekend takes care of my weekly expenses so what I do til friday will be more or less profit. I know everyone breaks down expenses by the mile. I read that it costs $.85 a mile to run a truck but I have it down to what I need to make a week. That is after fuel, insurance, truck payment, broker fee, and I set money aside for the trailer too. Anyway so I figure a total of 1600 miles for this weekend at $2150 which gives me a total of about $1.34 for all miles. One plus is that this is another CH Robinson load so I'll have my money in a few days. I guess the key thing is what I asked above whether when quoted on a load if the deadhead is figured in at the start? Oh by the way Glockboyz, thanks for the posted loads. Right now I'm going to just stick with the guy, remember it's only been 8 days. Part of the deal is he runs my truck. The benefit to him is, as he told me, he has more trucks to offer. Well so far that's my weekend. As always looking forward to hear any and all comments. P.S. I was wondering what happened to you Pepe? I guess the Cingular block.
#38
Merrick, when a broker quotes the mileage and rate it usually doesn't include any deadhead miles. You need to figure the deadhead yourself to see if taking the load makes sense to you. I have gotten the broker to kick in deadhead money on occasion, but it isn't the norm. I always run the miles myself before committing to a load. Some brokers use short miles. If you take a Landstar load, they usually use short miles. I just allow enough on my rate to compensate for the difference. If you plan on running a lot of CH Robinson loads, you don't need to have a dispatcher. You can post on their load board or one of the other load boards and brokers will begin to call you. I think you can do as well or better on your own rather than paying this guy to dispatch you. But, we all need to do what makes us comfortable.
I think most owner operators and carriers approach this business backwards. Brokers and shippers are setting the rates, in most cases. The carrier should be the one who establishes the rate. If you refuse to haul cheap freight, rates will come up. It can take time to find the better paying loads.
#39
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 258
ok. The comment that I'm about to make is for the purpose of others saying what they think of the comment. That's all. Not claiming anything else.
It appears, from what you've posted, that you could use CH Robenson online loadboard and pick your own loads. No doubt you read and reason as well as the guy that is doing it for you for a price. Even better in some areas as you've stated. Then you wouldn't have to wonder about being sent anywhere and second guessing what is going on with the guy. No doubt there are owners who need their services. I think you need to heavily consider if you are one of them. And then as you are into this longer, you will feel comfortable adding more load boards and getting more into your load choices. |
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