Yet another IFTA question.....sheesh!
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Yet another IFTA question.....sheesh!
If you're at mile marker zero on a highway, do you have to count that mile on your
IFTA report??? Technically it doesn't exist, it's a zero, right? I'm sorry I........................... couldn't resist. Glad this week is over.
#2
Lie about it. Before IFTA(remember fuel permits?) i would deliver to a warehouse that was on a state line. Address in one state,truck entrance in another. 900.00 fine for driving in the state and not purchasing a permit.
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I use a digitial voice recorder($20 at Walmart) to log all my mileage at state line crossings. I missed the first time the fact that I crossed into Georgia for those few miles before coming to Chattanooga. Actually, I was on my way to Florida so I reentered Georgia again very quickly. For simplification of my trip report, I don't have a line for those 4 or 5 miles. I just report them as miles in Tennessee. What about when traveling on NY17(Southern Tier Expressway) passing thru Waverly, NY? Doesn't the New York roadway cross into Pennsylvania? Maybe PA fuel taxes are less than NY, but what is it a couple cents difference? I do record all miles, but it does happen that my trip report maybe incorrect for a couple miles from time to time. I would think that if the BOL delivery address for the load was one state but actually physically delivery location another state, the trip report would show a line but with 0 miles recorded. BTW, back when Washington required 53ft trailer permits, the WSP would wait at the WA14 exit on I5 coming off the Interstate Bridge in Vancouver. They would stop drivers going to Camas, WA paper mills to check their permits. If the driver didn't have a permit coming into WA with a 53ft trailer, then he was suppose to drive up to POE to purchase it before making the delivery. That was 32 miles out of the way. What was the fine? I don't know as I was out of Oregon and had an annual permit.
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I ask because on another thread I have been trying to calculate and argue that Toll Road is cheaper than running US30/I71/I76. My company generally does not pay for the toll road, but I attempting to understand the reason from a financially decision. Hopefully, that an O/O here knows the answer definitely. http://www.classadrivers.com/forum/t...roads-not.html
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If I may hijack your thread for a moment. How does the fuel taxes work in Indiana and Ohio when using the Toll Roads? Are the fuel taxes deducted from the toll charges or are the toll charges in addition to the fuel taxes?
I ask because on another thread I have been trying to calculate and argue that Toll Road is cheaper than running US30/I71/I76. My company generally does not pay for the toll road, but I attempting to understand the reason from a financially decision. Hopefully, that an O/O here knows the answer definitely. http://www.classadrivers.com/forum/t...roads-not.html Hijack it I don't mind, I was just joking around.
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I believe that New York is the only state that you are supposed to be able to deduct the toll miles if you travel on their Thruway. That is a major problem that I have running a toll road. These states expect you to pay the toll and report the miles driven on your IFTA so they essentially collect the tax on both ends. There is an exempt column on your IFTA tax form. Since I rarely travel the toll roads I don't use it.
I report those few miles traveled in Georgia on I-24 you mentioned, danske. It will come back and bite you if you fail to count those miles and are audited. The auditor can put your route into his computer and come up with the miles you should have reported in each state. If you come up short then he could fine you. You really don't want them on your case.
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I believe that New York is the only state that you are supposed to be able to deduct the toll miles if you travel on their Thruway. That is a major problem that I have running a toll road. These states expect you to pay the toll and report the miles driven on your IFTA so they essentially collect the tax on both ends. There is an exempt column on your IFTA tax form. Since I rarely travel the toll roads I don't use it.
I report those few miles traveled in Georgia on I-24 you mentioned, danske. It will come back and bite you if you fail to count those miles and are audited. The auditor can put your route into his computer and come up with the miles you should have reported in each state. If you come up short then he could fine you. You really don't want them on your case. Hey, isn't there a border dispute up there where Georgia Tennessee meet? Apparently, Georgia wants access to the Tennessee River for need of water and it claiming that stateline is further north then draw. River Runs Through Georgia-Tennessee Fight : NPR Oh, and I have noticed that my truck's odometer off by 0.8% under; So for every 1000 miles it records 992 miles. I have check this with my GPS and my trip reports(eg. I80 in Nebraska equals 451 miles) That means that I lose $2.88(I am paid off the hub 36cpm) for every 1000 miles driven which could translate to more than $360 a year. Should I complain? No, because I am aware of the issue and deal with it(just like when I got HHG and Practical Miles pay). Also, I am seeing how it changes as my drive tires wear down(eg. less circumference/more rotations per mile). Question is how does the states like getting shorted those miles because of my odometer? |
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