Turbo 3000, absolute garbage!
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I'm still trying to "grasp" the science of this thing---
let's see--you got 2 magnets--creating a magnetic field-----you pass the fuel through this weak magnetic field......and what????? This seems to be the Patent submission: claim: 1. In a magnetic assembly of the type adapted to be secured to a fuel line of a motor vehicle for improving the combustion of the fuel passing through the line and comprising a housing, a plurality of strong magnets disposed within the housing and arranged in two adjacent columns with at least two magnets in each column and the south poles of each magnet facing toward the wall of the housing adapted to be disposed adjacent the fuel line, and a substantially flat plate disposed within the housing against the north poles of the two uppermost magnets in each column, the improvement comprising: four secondary magnets disposed against the plate on the opposite side thereof from the strong magnets, said secondary magnets being substantially weaker in magnetic strength than the strong magnets and two of said secondary magnets being aligned over each column of the strong magnets with the south poles of said secondary magnets being disposed against the plate. 2. The improvement of claim 1 wherein said plate is constructed of a non-magnetic material and each of the strong magnets generates a magnetic field within the range of about 1,000-1,500 gauss and each of said secondary magnets generates a magnetic field within the range of about 200-300 gauss. 3. In a magnetic assembly of the type adapted to be secured to a fuel line of a motor vehicle for improving the combustion of the fuel passing through the line and comprising a housing, a plurality of strong magnets disposed within the housing and arranged in two adjacent columns with at least two magnets in each column and the south poles of each magnet facing toward the wall of the housing adapted to be disposed adjacent the fuel line, and a substantially flat plate disposed within the housing against the north poles of the two uppermost magnets in each column, the improvement comprising: four secondary magnets disposed between and in contact with the strong magnets and the plate, said secondary magnets being substantially weaker in magnetic strength than the strong magnets and two of said secondary magnets being aligned over each column of the strong magnets with the south poles of said secondary magnets being disposed against the north poles of the two uppermost strong magnets in said columns. 4. The improvement of the claim 3 wherein said plate is constructed of a non-magnetic material and each of the strong magnets generates a magnetic field within the range of about 1,000-1,500 gauss and each of said secondary magnets generates a magnetic field within the range of about 200-300 gauss. 5. A magnetic assembly adapted to be secured to a fuel line of a motor vehicle for improving the combustion of the fuel passing through the line, said assembly comprising: a housing having a top, bottom and side walls; means carried by said housing for securing said assembly to the fuel line such that said bottom wall is disposed against the fuel line; a plurality of primary magnets disposed within said housing and arranged in two adjacent columns with at least two primary magnets in each column and the south poles of each primary magnet facing toward said bottom wall of said housing; a substantially flat plate disposed within said housing against the north poles of the two uppermost magnets in said columns; and four secondary magnets disposed against said plate on the opposite side thereof from said primary magnets and adjacent said top wall of said housing, said secondary magnets being substantially weaker in magnetic strength then said primary magnets and two of said secondary magnets being aligned over each column of said primary magnets with the south poles of said secondary magnets being disposed against said plate. 6. The magnetic assembly of claim 5 wherein said plate is constructed of a non-magnetic material and each of said primary magnets generates a magnetic field within the range of about 1,000-1,500 gauss and said secondary magnets each generates a magnetic field within the range of about 200-300 gauss. 7. The magnetic assembly of claim 6 wherein said primary magnets comprise ceramic material and are rectangular in configuration. 8. A magnetic assembly adapted to be secured to a fuel line of a motor vehicle for improving the combustion of the fuel passing through the line, said assembly comprising: a housing having a top, bottom and side walls; means carried by said housing for securing said assembly to the fuel line such that said bottom wall is disposed against the fuel line; a plurality of primary magnets disposed within said housing and arranged in two adjacent columns with at least two primary magnets in each column and the south poles of each primary magnet facing toward said bottom wall of said housing; four secondary magnets disposed within said housing, said secondary magnets being substantially weak in magnetic strength than said primary magnets and two of said secondary magnets being disposed against each of the uppermost primary magnets in said columns with the south poles of said secondary magnets being disposed against the north poles of said two uppermost primary magnets; and a substantially flat plate disposed against the north poles of said secondary magnets proximate said top wall of said housing. 9. The magnetic assembly of claim 8 wherein said plate is constructed of a non-magnetic material and each of said primary magnets generates a magnetic field within the range of about 1,000-1,500 gauss and said secondary magnets each generates a magnetic field within the range of about 200-300 gauss. 10. The magnetic assembly of claim 9 wherein said primary magnets comprise ceramic material and are rectangular in configuration. __________________________________________________ __________ Doesn't explain any science there----and 10. ( a primary magnet comprise a ceramic material and are rectangular in configuration)----- 99% of all ceramic material---has no magnetic properties(dummy magnet?) 1% of advanced ceramic material can be found in (super-conductor research)----but, currently you have to cool it with liquid nitrogen to get it to work. off to research: fuel passing through 200-300 gauss magnetic field
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Here's the latest Ad I found in Dec 14th The Trucker
under Gifts pg 53 Turbo 3000D "The TURBO 3000D saves a reported 10 precent on fuel costs BY CREATING A CONTROLLED TURBULENCE IN THE FUEL. THIS IMPROVES VOLATILITY AND ATOMIZATION BY INCREASING THE SURFACE AREA OF THE FUEL THAT IS SURROUNDED BY, AND COMBINED WITH, THE OXYGEN IN THE AIR. COMBUSTION EFFICIENCY IS ENHANCED BY "MORE COMPLETELY ATOMIZING AND BURNING FUEL THAT USUALLY REMAINS UNBURNED AND WASTED." so now they aren't even talking about the magnets anymore! LoL just where in the fuel line does this thing go anyway? between the injectors & pump? pump & filter? before the filter? I'm not a mechanic---but, I'd imagine those injectors would pretty much mess up all that turbulence this thing created(with those two pieces of metal inside the pipe)???? Increase the surface area of the fuel inside a fuel line? what the ??? Oxygen(air) (surrounding the fuel) in a fuel line? What do you call fuel that is left unburned and wasted in a combustion chamber? and just how would a thing down in the fuel line help your glow plug burn this fuel better?
#13
Originally Posted by headborg
Here's the latest Ad I found in Dec 14th The Trucker
under Gifts pg 53 Turbo 3000D "The TURBO 3000D saves a reported 10 precent on fuel costs BY CREATING A CONTROLLED TURBULENCE IN THE FUEL. THIS IMPROVES VOLATILITY AND ATOMIZATION BY INCREASING THE SURFACE AREA OF THE FUEL THAT IS SURROUNDED BY, AND COMBINED WITH, THE OXYGEN IN THE AIR. COMBUSTION EFFICIENCY IS ENHANCED BY "MORE COMPLETELY ATOMIZING AND BURNING FUEL THAT USUALLY REMAINS UNBURNED AND WASTED." so now they aren't even talking about the magnets anymore! LoL just where in the fuel line does this thing go anyway? between the injectors & pump? pump & filter? before the filter? I'm not a mechanic---but, I'd imagine those injectors would pretty much mess up all that turbulence this thing created(with those two pieces of metal inside the pipe)???? Increase the surface area of the fuel inside a fuel line? what the ??? Oxygen(air) (surrounding the fuel) in a fuel line? What do you call fuel that is left unburned and wasted in a combustion chamber? and just how would a thing down in the fuel line help your glow plug burn this fuel better? Glow plugs merely heat the air being taken into a cylinder and are not typically used on a diesel engine. They are used only for cold starts and have absolutely nothing to do with igniting fuel, as a spark plug would in a gas engine. Unburned fuel is called smoke out the stack in a diesel. Aside from that, the Turbo 3000 mounts in the fuel line, after the pump and filters, before the fuel galley in the cylinder head. And yes, I would think that the injectors would completely kill any turbulence developed by such a device.
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ok, see I'm not a diesel mechanic! but, I am willing to learn.
so, glow plugs merely heat the air being taken into a cylinder and are not typically used on a diesel engine. May I ask, what is the ignition source in a diesel engine combustion chamber????? if not the glow plug??? my Ford F-350 Cummins may need to see a new mechanic soon. damn....how hot is that air??? that the diesel "self ignites"????? so the diesel is injected near the end of the compression stroke? how many strokes is a diesel cycle? intake? compression?power?exhaust? I mean if it takes in raw air? compresses it--when is the diesel injected?? if it "self ignites" upon contact with the hot air......seems like injector timing would be much more critical.
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Originally Posted by headborg
ok, see I'm not a diesel mechanic! but, I am willing to learn.
so, glow plugs merely heat the air being taken into a cylinder and are not typically used on a diesel engine.
May I ask, what is the ignition source in a diesel engine combustion chamber????? if not the glow plug???
so the diesel is injected near the end of the compression stroke?
how many strokes is a diesel cycle?
intake? compression?power?exhaust?
I mean if it takes in raw air? compresses it--when is the diesel injected??
if it "self ignites" upon contact with the hot air......seems like injector timing would be much more critical.
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Keep in mind that anyone can file a patent. The product does not have to work at all. It can even be a patent on a Startrek Transporter. Just as long as you don't try and copy it. Companies like this one file a patent or have one pending because people believe that if you have a patent then it must work.
If there is ANY device that could boost mileage on a truck that worked then EVERY SINGLE TRUCK MANUFACTURER would buy one for each new truck just to increase their sales. It's as simple as that.
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Originally Posted by SteveBooth
Keep in mind that anyone can file a patent. The product does not have to work at all. It can even be a patent on a Startrek Transporter. Just as long as you don't try and copy it. Companies like this one file a patent or have one pending because people believe that if you have a patent then it must work.
If there is ANY device that could boost mileage on a truck that worked then EVERY SINGLE TRUCK MANUFACTURER would buy one for each new truck just to increase their sales. It's as simple as that. Or, the major oil companies would buy the idea, and lock it up for years to protect their sales.
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Ideal Gas Law
The reason the fuel ignites is due to the ideal gas law (and since no elements of Avogadro's law will apply, it's a little easier to look at the combined gas law:
pV=nRT p=pressure V=volume n is amount of a chemical R is a constant T=temperature. In a four stroke engine, just look at TDC and BDC. n and R drop out. Going from BDC (let's say fuel and air go in here) to TDC: p goes up, V goes down. p goes up more than V goes down, T has to rise to compensate. At some point, T is high enough for fuel to burn. Pistons move. Truck moves. We get paid. (well, you, since I'm not driving yet)
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The reason the fuel ignites is due to the ideal gas law (and since no elements of Avogadro's law will apply, it's a little easier to look at the combined gas law:
pV=nRT p=pressure V=volume n is amount of a chemical R is a constant T=temperature. In a four stroke engine, just look at TDC and BDC. n and R drop out. Going from BDC (let's say fuel and air go in here) to TDC: p goes up, V goes down. p goes up more than V goes down, T has to rise to compensate. At some point, T is high enough for fuel to burn. Pistons move. Truck moves. We get paid. (well, you, since I'm not driving yet) what language is this ???? :? :lol: |
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