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....and compared to the Clinton administration, his (Nixon's) misdeeds were relatively minor.
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Originally Posted by golfhobo
....and compared to the Clinton administration, his (Nixon's) misdeeds were relatively minor.
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Would you care to explain this statement?
Bill Clinton promised The American People "An Administration that would "AVOID THE MERE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY".... and went on to give us EVERY appearance of impropriety. (More details later, I have to get off to an early start in the A.M.) Golf, you and I are friends, and while I detest the Bush Administration and what the Republicans have become as much as you do, when it comes to the improprieties and crimes of the Clinton Administration, do you really need an explanation?? No president of The United states trampled The U.S. Constitution and breeched his sworn duties more than did Bill Clinton......errrr.....that is untill George W. Bush was elected!!! Now, of course, Bush is Dick Chenney's Puppet in Chief!!!
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Fozzy:
I understand that getting "serviced" while in office is nothing that half of the presidents haven't done, and is nothing like subverting the constitution in an attempt to steal an election. And if you think he was the LAST to know, and ONLY tried to 'cover it up' you're probably buying all of Bush's B.S. too!
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Originally Posted by Useless
Ironically, the first "rigged" presidential election of my lifetime was back in 1960, when Richard Nixon was DEFEATED by John F. Kennedy. Now, that was a very close race, and up until the last minute, it appeared that Nixon was going to win the White House. Unbeknownst to Nixon, Joseph Kennedy (JFK's father) has already secured the election for John in Chicago, where, as we would quickly learn, there were there were more votes than voters.
As the irregularities in voting became more apparent and undeniable, it became clear that Nixon had every right to demand a recount, and that he would have quite likely prevailed. Nixon, believing that he was acting in the best interest of the country, declined to demand a recount. That is all.
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Useless: Although I wouldn't use the language JR OTR used on you (as you say, we are friends,) I would have to agree with what he said. Kennedy won by OVER 80 electoral votes... and that would have been more except for the 14 Southern Democrat Electors who refused to vote for him because he was Catholic, and due to his support of civil and (black) voting rights.
That is a LANDSLIDE compared to the 2000 vote. That is more than the "Bush States" of Florida and Texas combined.
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Rev. Vassago said:
Had this supposed re-vote actually occurred, you would have had more corruption than ever, as the entire nation would know that the election was hanging on that county. The turnout would have been astronomical, and probably would have even exceeded the total population for the county, due to outsiders coming in to vote.
But, I don't know how they do it where you are from, but I've voted in both Blue and Red states, and ALWAYS had to verify my I.D. with the list of registered voters for that county. This little "problem" you speak of could have easily been monitored and controlled.
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Originally Posted by golfhobo
Rev. Vassago said:
Had this supposed re-vote actually occurred, you would have had more corruption than ever, as the entire nation would know that the election was hanging on that county. The turnout would have been astronomical, and probably would have even exceeded the total population for the county, due to outsiders coming in to vote.
But, I don't know how they do it where you are from, but I've voted in both Blue and Red states, and ALWAYS had to verify my I.D. with the list of registered voters for that county. This little "problem" you speak of could have easily been monitored and controlled.
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most make you "verify" by simply signing the roster under the NAME you provide. I have voted at my local poll for the last 5 years and have never needed any REAL verification. The Chicago elections have been historically full of dead people. Since most of the dead people vote democrat.. they are as large a captive audience as the welfar classes that the democrats built there.
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I hope tthunderdan doesn't mind, but he posted this link on the "incumbents" thread, and I thought it should ALSO go here.
http://www.votefraud.org/ I'm sure some will cry that it's obviously a Democratic website, and we're just still whining about losing the White House, but I think the ISSUE and the DANGER are real, and all Americans should be concerned. EDIT: After actually reading much of the info on this site, I see that it is NOT Democratic, but rather Inependant (or whatever party Buchanan was.) Much of this will look like Conspiracy theory, and whining, to be sure. But, after checking SOME of the links that do NOT lead you to anything written by Jim Condit, I found quite a bit of info to back my position and concerns about voter fraud... especially by computers. Anyone with half a brain cannot deny the possibility, likelihood and probability that these machines can, will or have been used to steal elections. The important point is... we would never know. Why vote if we can't be sure the results are fair and honest?
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